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hey friends : D
so i have been considering purchasing a commodore 64 and learning to program, etc.. however before i do i figured i'd ask this question:
i have an atari 65xe and i was wondering if i can do the same things with that that i could with a c64.. is it worth getting a c64?
thanks : D
gg
I wouldn't expect so. Th c64 has a different sound chip,l and the 65xe doesn't. Sorry!
Arghhh, this was first ever Atari i saw at the computer programming club back in 1987. Afaik this has 1-bit speaker like Speccy 48k, so nothing extra.
WTF 1bit "speaker" or "nothing extra"???
Atari got 4 channels with stereo upgrade you have 8 channels.
And sounds beautiful, sounds are like on NES or GAMEBOY, ATARI ST.
Atari 65XE is ATARI 800XE...
ATARI POKEY soundchip YOUTUBE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZkiR7MV3s
WIKI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POKEY
DATASHEET:
http://www.retromicro.com/files/atari/8bit/pokey.pdf
STEREO UPGRADE
http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/stereo/stereoen.htm
SD CARD DRIVE
http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/sdrive/sdriveen.htm
RMT music tracker (PC)
http://raster.infos.cz/atari/rmt/rmt.htm
MPT tracker (XE)
http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/mpt24s.zip
TMC tracker (XE)
http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/thetamc.zip
ATR tool
http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/atrutil113.zip
Stop talking shit on 8bit ATARIs!!!
Last edited by Tinctu (Sep 13, 2012 11:08 am)
Commodore's SID chip is deservedly one of the most famous, if not THE most famous, 80s sound chip. Whatever your atari has in it, it's definitely not like SID.
When anyone says Atari I think http://www.preromanbritain.com/maxymiser/
Don't know if yours can run it tho.
When anyone says Atari I think http://www.preromanbritain.com/maxymiser/
Don't know if yours can run it tho.
Nope, this is an Atari ST tracker and he's talking about 8-bit atari computer (XE/XL)...not the same man ! 
C64 and XL have different sound chips yes, but there's a broad similarity in the types of sound chips they have. (witness Rob Hubbard's work on both systems) On the Atari side the sound is a bit more "harsh" and you don't get filters, but they're both pretty nice chips to experiment with.
Both systems use a version of the 65xx processor so if you learn assembly on one you can adapt it for another. Personally I'd say buy the c64 because there's a ton more editors and so on there, and the community is (arguably) more active.
WTF 1bit "speaker" or "nothing extra"???
Atari got 4 channels with stereo upgrade you have 8 channels.
And sounds beautiful, sounds are like on NES or GAMEBOY, ATARI ST.
Atari 65XE is ATARI 800XE...ATARI POKEY soundchip YOUTUBE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZkiR7MV3sWIKI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POKEYDATASHEET:
http://www.retromicro.com/files/atari/8bit/pokey.pdfSTEREO UPGRADE
http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/stereo/stereoen.htmSD CARD DRIVE
http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/sdrive/sdriveen.htmRMT music tracker (PC)
http://raster.infos.cz/atari/rmt/rmt.htmMPT tracker (XE)
http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/mpt24s.zipTMC tracker (XE)
http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/thetamc.zipATR tool
http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/atrutil113.zipStop talking shit on 8bit ATARIs!!!
Oh sorry, never knew that 
I thought Atari ST was on same level (YM-chip) as AY-3-8912 in Speccy 128k and i never heard any sound from that Atari XE.
Oh sorry, never knew that
Check this out !
http://asma.atari.org/
gah! you guys are the greatest! got the answers i need- thanks a ton : )
i ordered one of these bad boys so that i can just use an sd card to load up trackers (it has been hard to find a floppy drive for the 65xe)
http://www.nightfallcrew.com/wp-content … G_5665.jpg
many, many thanks.
gg
i will be very, very sure to upload some atari 65xe tunes in the future..
check out this as well: http://www.atarimax.com/sio2pc/documentation/
if you use OS X: http://www.atarimac.com/sio2osx.php
(i use this setup with my 800xl)
if you can read any german, this is a great resource as well for atari 8bit: http://www.abbuc.de/
