pXtR
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Hi all,

I know there are a lot of netlables, however I would like to start a new one, this one would be exclusively focused to chipnoise stuff. This is just a small poll if there are interested people to make chipnoise pieces and publish them as net EP.

Few things should be mentioned, first my definition of chipnoise (this is not necessarily my personal opinion, rather guidelines for this netlabel): music made only 8-bit (or less) chips, game consoles, 8-bit computers etc., no songs, rather a collection(s) of sounds which tried to use extensive amount of potentials of chips. No "pop tunes", instead sounds: quiet, loud, noisy, odd, calm, not-so-calm, random, chance, chaotic, anything. 8-bit means sound chip, it should be 8-bit or less, it doesn't matter if CPU, PPU, GPU, RPU, DPU, KGB etc. are 16-32-64-20002002 bits, but sound chip should be 8 or less.

Also, all music would be published either in tracker formats (MOD,IT,XM,Beepola, piximod,s3m, all possible as long there exists a player) or direct programs (SMS,NES,GB etc as long there exists some emulator able to play them, but no graphics, demos, just the music, blank screen, any color is acceptable smile. If using sample-based formats they should be all 8-bit chip samples, no real instruments, no 16-bit extra sounds, no drum sample, kicks, snares etc, only chips, as pure as possible. No MP3's, WAV's, OGG's, only small files so that an EP would contain 3-8 pieces and it MUST be less or eqaul than 1 MB of total size (of music, covers etc are not calculated in this). And no VST's, not even a reverb, just chips, no cheating.

A lot of rules, sorry, here's a summary:

1. Sounds, no "tunes", no "songs", 8-bit or less
2. Only tracker formats, sample formats from 8-bit chip sources.
3. Each EP should contain 3-8 pieces
4. Maximum total size for music in one EP is 1 MB.


Thanks of reading !


-pXtR

PixyJunket
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I think you'd be better off offering a format people can play (mp3s, oggs) along with the raw tracker files.

Otherwise, most people won't bother trying to get a different piece of software or a different plug-in for each EP they want to list to.

ant1
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Sounds very good!

Timbaland
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Yeah dog. Shit's good.

likeluke
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Timbaland wrote:

Yeah dog. Shit's good.

whoever you are, best account ever.

pXtR
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PixyJunket wrote:

I think you'd be better off offering a format people can play (mp3s, oggs) along with the raw tracker files.

Otherwise, most people won't bother trying to get a different piece of software or a different plug-in for each EP they want to list to.

You're right, that would be better, however this netlabel would stick in raw format (I've considered this a lot before posting), there are few points why: a) I will offer a bunch of links to freeware/open source trackers/players hopefully to make them even more well-known; b) this would be 8-bit noise/chip/stuff to 8-bit people, the idea is to experiment, perhaps break some borders, find new things; c) one main point would be that we should try to control (or not to control at all) the chip itself, the music is a kind of side-effect (this is my own case many times),
different players make different end results, our job would be only the chip, nothing else.

I also forgot to put few examples I composed especially for this topic, will post them soon !


Thanks PixyJunket !

-p

pXtR
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Here are few examples:

AY:
ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/pxtr/netlabel/ayex1.ay

MOD:
ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/pxtr/netlabel/modex1.mod

POKEY:
ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/pxtr/net … keyex1.sap

SMS:
ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/pxtr/netlabel/smsex1.sms

Here are several examples of chipnoise (though not in tracker/raw-format):

http://jkp.antisocial.be/

Just to get started.


-p

akira^8GB
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Oh, nice, a label just for tunes done by Eddie Svärd.

Lazerbeat
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What would your thoughts be on Piggy Tracker? I assume not chip enough?

PixyJunket
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pXtR wrote:

You're right, that would be better, however this netlabel would stick in raw format (I've considered this a lot before posting), there are few points why: a) I will offer a bunch of links to freeware/open source trackers/players hopefully to make them even more well-known; b) this would be 8-bit noise/chip/stuff to 8-bit people, the idea is to experiment, perhaps break some borders, find new things; c) one main point would be that we should try to control (or not to control at all) the chip itself, the music is a kind of side-effect (this is my own case many times),
different players make different end results, our job would be only the chip, nothing else.

Even if you provide links to the individual trackers and/or players, most people will simply not bother installing them.. especially nowadays when basically every music site will have a flash player that will play the music with a single click. Not to mention the prevalence of mobile devices people use to listed to music they've downloaded. You will be severely limiting the audience, which may be fine to you and it may fit in with the enthusiast attitude of the site/label, mind you, but that's the reality of it.

ant1
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uhajdafdfdfa

Maybe there's someone in the world who doesn't care what most people will say about what [s?]he does. That'd be good! smile

akira^8GB
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ant1 wrote:

Maybe there's someone in the world who doesn't care what most people will say about what [s?]he does. That'd be good! smile

Then there's no point in creating a platform for distribution of media.

Let's make a TV channel, but I don't care if people watch it

Last edited by akira^8GB (Jul 22, 2010 4:36 pm)

pXtR
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PixyJunket wrote:
pXtR wrote:

You're right, that would be better, however this netlabel would stick in raw format (I've considered this a lot before posting), there are few points why: a) I will offer a bunch of links to freeware/open source trackers/players hopefully to make them even more well-known; b) this would be 8-bit noise/chip/stuff to 8-bit people, the idea is to experiment, perhaps break some borders, find new things; c) one main point would be that we should try to control (or not to control at all) the chip itself, the music is a kind of side-effect (this is my own case many times),
different players make different end results, our job would be only the chip, nothing else.

Even if you provide links to the individual trackers and/or players, most people will simply not bother installing them.. especially nowadays when basically every music site will have a flash player that will play the music with a single click. Not to mention the prevalence of mobile devices people use to listed to music they've downloaded. You will be severely limiting the audience, which may be fine to you and it may fit in with the enthusiast attitude of the site/label, mind you, but that's the reality of it.

You're absolutely right, I'm limiting already now, before starting anything, but as I said before, there are a lot of netlabels already now, and this label would (or actually I decided it will be ie. I will start it any way) 8-bit music for 8-bit people, especially for enthusiast who probably already have installed all possible trackers and players without my links. I'm not trying to find big audiences, a small group of devoted people is perfectly fine. So, no MP3/WAV/OGG, just raw stuff. And no flashes, never, we are a group of swearing nerds, if we can't configure few MIME-types to play .NSF-files directly then we are in wrong business.

pXtR
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Lazerbeat wrote:

What would your thoughts be on Piggy Tracker? I assume not chip enough?

Piggy is fine as long you use 8-bit samples. Meaning 8-bit samples from 8-bit consoles, 8-bit computers, etc., but no MIDI, just chip stuff. I first thought to limit this only 8-bit stuff, no sample trackers but that wouldn't be correct, and limiting too much. As pure as possible, no VST's, chip programming, it doesn't matter are you doing it by tracker, assembler, C, Basic, all is fine as long the stuff is pure 8-bit music.

ant1
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akira^8GB wrote:
ant1 wrote:

Maybe there's someone in the world who doesn't care what most people will say about what [s?]he does. That'd be good! smile

Then there's no point in creating a platform for distribution of media.

Let's make a TV channel, but I don't care if people watch it

Please don't twist my words.

"I don't care if people watch it" != "I don't care if most people watch it"

There is still an in-between area of things which have limited/s pecialist appeal.

pXtR
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akira^8GB wrote:
ant1 wrote:

Maybe there's someone in the world who doesn't care what most people will say about what [s?]he does. That'd be good! smile

Then there's no point in creating a platform for distribution of media.

Let's make a TV channel, but I don't care if people watch it

When you make experimental music, kind of stuff I'm doing here, there's no point to calculate how many comments and/or listener's I might have for this and that piece. Most people simply don't like experimental stuff, anyway I love those chip sounds and I'm going to make this music rest of my life any way, I simply don't (can't) care if anyone is listening/liking/anything. I just try to be honest for myself, do what I feel right, at the moment when I push Submit-button I don't know or care what happens, no one of us can't only make music for our time, we lose control in that moment, our music can be anywhere which means that some kids who haven't yet born will hear some of this stuff at some time in future. Exactly, let's make music, who cares if anyone is listening, there's no way to control it.

Last edited by pXtR (Jul 22, 2010 5:27 pm)