xylo wrote:

Moar atari please!


OK, I've just finished it today (gear: Atari 520ST) but don't want to spread it too much, because it's for our concert in May:
http://ym-digital.i-demo.pl/YM_DIGITAL- … _Cover.mp3
A cover of "DRACONUS" by Adam Gilmore - from a famous 8-bit game from 80s. smile



505:

> Thanks Yerz! For webspace, maybe untergrund.net is a suitable solution.
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Maybe it's a good idea, many thanks. Probably when owners of i-demo.pl will refuse us more place, we will turn to the untergrund.net then, hehehe. wink

Best wishes!
Y

Hi guyz,
thx a lot.

Well, the single ZIP can be for example here:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/c37pfe
(Press the blue "Click here to start download from sendspace" inscription) because i-demo.pl is not our server, so we can't put the content twice, You know.

Best wishes! wink
Y

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Of course, that's obvious - take Your time.
And don't listen to me - a reinforced-concrete-fan of ST series. wink
I always try to prove that Atari ST sounds better than anything else wink
http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/10237 … usic-fans/

Hi there. smile
After 2 years of break, we prepared another ATARI ST album with MOD-music -
YM-DIGITAL: „White Mouse Ate a Cat”
Our WWW site: http://ym-digital.i-demo.pl/

Tracklist/downloads:
01. Factor6 – Average day
02. Factor6 – Brighter sides
03. Yerzmyey – Meteor Rain
04. Factor6 – Rasengan
05. Factor6 – Housesizer
06. Yerzmyey – Time Dilatation
07. Factor6 – Atari Otaku
08. Yerzmyey – Alley of Stars (a cover of Lipko/Sosnicka)
09. Factor6 – White mouse ate a cat
10. Yerzmyey – Among Aliens
11. Factor6 – ST-02
12. Yerzmyey – Quantum Fluctuations
13. Factor6 – Techno Eric
14. Yerzmyey – Funky ST machine (bonus track, Atari STE, 8 channels of DMA chip)

Total Time: 50:06 min.

YM DIGITAL are:
YERZMYEY (Atari 520 ST, 4Mb of RAM)
FACTOR6 (Atari 520 ST+, 1Mb of RAM).

All songs (except the bonus-track) have been made on ATARI 520ST computers with YM2149 chip.

Cover-art in full quality.

Software used:
- ProTracker ST 2.1
- Hex-Tracker 0.844
- DigiComposer 1.0
- YM 50kHz Module Player

Recorded from real hardware: Atari 520ST.

The bonus track has been made on Atari 1040 STE 4Mb. It has 8 channels of DMA sound and has been composed on Octalyser 0.96r. Recorded from real hardware.

OK, tomorrow I will check out the format, just in case.
The truth is, I don't remember it for 100% at the moment.

PS: Escape usually is Shift+1.

PS.2: The commander works like a regular NortonCommander from PC, but without "F" keys:
F5=5, F6(rename)=6 and so on.
OK, I'm going back to finish my cover of DRACONUS music. wink

IrrlichtProject:


> So, finally I found the .scl version on some Russian website. Got AMD, too. Created a blank .trd, and copied an unsigned 8bit 16kHz drum sample to it. Loaded the tracker in FUSE, attached .trd image with the sample, click LOAD SAMPLE and... NO SAMPLES FOUND. Arrghhh! Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? I'm complete clueless.
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To make the SampleTracker see the samples, You have to change their extension into *.I (not 'small L" but "big i").
It will see them then. I use Real Commander 2.6 for it.
http://vtrdos.ru/system/RC_26FR.ZIP
Press "LOAD SAMPLE" (on the left-hand side of the screen - not "LOAD SAMPLES" on the right).
Now You can move/navigate with QAOP. SPACE is fire of course.
However to leave the 'samples window', You have to press CTRL+SHIFT (SymbolShift+CapsShift).
You can test the samples only in EDIT mode.
In 3rd octave more/less.


> One more question, does ST support looping of samples?
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Nope. Sadly it doesn't. When I need some longer samples (mostly to make some bass-brass or bass-string, I simply play it many times with a short samples, but rhythmically. Every 4 lines, or 8 lines, whatever You need.
Then people cannot usually hear it's not one long note, mostly due to low 4bit quality. Especially when it plays along with other channels.


_______EDIT_________
Aha, while saving Your work, You have to do it twice:
with button SAVE SONG and SAVE SAMPLES (the same goes for loading).

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Threesecondsecret:


> Okay sad Thanks very much.
If its going to have a noticeably worse sound quality and capabilities
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Oh, I wouldn't put it in THIS way. wink  wink  wink
I'd rather say that STE has audibly better sound quality than ST has. wink If You don't mind. wink wink

Of course even this small doze of humour isn't such an easy matter.
ST can play MOD with 50kHz quality and STE can. But for ST it's kinda 90% of CPU, and for STE it's 10%-20% (like I said, with the maximum quality of 50kHz).
More differences start later. 6ch of digi-music for instance. Full CPU power of ST, with quality about 22kHz. On STE the same song is again with 50kHz quality - and it takes only a half of the CPU's power.
Going up, STE still can play 8ch MOD with the same 50kHz quality (eating this time 90% of CPU) while ST can play 8ch, taking all CPU, with far lower quality, which would be about 17kHz.

Another thing is with synthetic music (chiptunes). MusicMon sound the same on both, so You'd rather use maxYMizer.
And here we have one main difference. On ST maxYMizer uses 3 channels. On STE it has additional 2 channels of digi sound.


> then I'll probably wait, unless you think is still worth is, seems like a reasonable price to me?
There was a boxed 1040STE on ebay the other week, with cubase, mouse, vga adapter and some other software.
Maybe I'll save up for something like that next time one comes around.
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Sadly I couldn't say anything about prices, as they're so different in all countries.


Greetzzzzzzzz,
Y

Hi,

IrrlichtProject asked several questions about the SampleTracker.

DOWNLOAD: http://vtrdos.ru/system/SAMPLET.ZIP

Q: what kind of samples work correctly on ZX-Sampletracker?

A: It loads even regular PC WAVs, hehe. But it adds a click on beginnings of instruments (which is a header that's audible here) that means SampleTracker probably prefers rather un-signed samples. If not - let me know, will check dis out.
I'd say SampleTracker will work the best with unsigned RAW files. 8bit quality and 16000hz should be OK for it.
However You should remember that the program is designed for ZX Spectrums with 48Kb only, so Your instruments _must_ be small. Normally, for ZX48K I make samples 1-3Kb big. The program plays on ZX the 8bit samples with quality required for hardware You have.
Which in ZX case means:
- when You switch into Covox, then You hear 8bit quality of Your music.
- If You have only the standard config - Spectrum48 with AY-interface, then You will hear 4bit quality of the samples.
- And also - on the basic config - alone ZX48 - You will have Your song in 1-bit quality (beeper). Of course still 3 channels.


Q: Been trying to wrap my head around it for some time now, but I just can't figure it out. How do I change the octave, for example?

A: Yupp, it can be kinda tricky sometimes. To change octave press EDIT and only then press 1-6 (in 2.1 version, and 1-3 in 2.0 version).
Change tempo: "5" and "8" (but NOT in the EDIT mode, btw wink ).


Q: And more importantly, how do I prepare a .tap with samples that will actually work?

A: Well, as for me, actually I don't. I use a disk version of SampleTracker - v. 2.1 (it's for Spectrum 128K only). Its final song (MOD, we could say) is still fully compatible with Spectrum48, so finally You can record Your song from real hardware after all.
I prepare a regular 8bit mono sample on CoolEdit or anything (samples should be small, let's say 1-3Kb) and then I simply copy them into *.trd diskette image with single F5 key, under AMD program.
SampleTracker is old (early 90s) and has no VOLUME command. Therefore, when I want to have 'delay' on my leading traxx, I make two versions of the same sample - louder and more silent. Et voila. wink


More questions?
Shoot.

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(25 replies, posted in Atari)

Aha. OK, I will.

Done: http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/10202 … -spectrum/

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irrlichtproject wrote:

Nice, thanks for sharing, man!
Btw will these work correctly on ZX-Sampletracker?

I imagine it should, as it loads even regular PC WAVs, hehe.
But it adds a click on beginnings of instruments (which is a header that's audible here) that means SampleTracker prefers rather un-signed samples.
I'd say SampleTracker will work the best with unsigned RAW files. 8bit quality and 16000hz should be OK for it.
However You should remember that the program is designed for ZX Spectrums with 48Kb only, so Your instruments _must_ be small. Normally, for ZX48K I make samples 1-3Kb big. The program behaves then in a similar way like MusicMon on Atari ST (various ways of decoding) - it plays on ZX the 8bit samples with quality required for hardware You have.
Which in ZX case means: when You switch into Covox, then You hear 8bit quality of Your music. If You have only the standard config - Spectrum48 with AY-interface, then You will hear 4bit quality of the samples.
And also - on the basic config - alone ZX48 - You will have Your song in 1-bit quality (beeper). Of course still 3 channels.

Greetz,
Y

PS: If You plan to use ZX48 and the SampleTracker, I can test for sure what sample-format does it use exactly. But actually we should rather move this conversation into "Other Vintage Computers & Consoles" corner, hahah. wink Although the sound-chip is the same in both machines. wink

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threesecondsecret wrote:

Ah sorry, this is the gumtree post, the rest of the info was on emails
http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/atari … 1008092579
Thanks. Thats what I thought :s I can't quite see from the images what model it is sad

Yes dude, now we can see the machine. smile
And IP is right - there are no connectors for stereo 8bit DMA sound, hehe.
The only audio output goes from the monitor connector (just like in my ATARI machines I make music on).
This is NOT STE, heh.

This is 1040STFM. Which You can use for 3-channels chiptunes on MusicMon / maxYMizer.
Or to some digital multichannel stuff but with audibly lower quality of sound than real STE has.
If ym2149 chip is enough for You, then go for it.
If You're looking specially for STE model - this is not the one.

Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wink
(I go back to my STFM now ;-) ).

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Well, You didn't give any link.
However,for my taste, the guy is deceiving somehow.

STE is STE.

And STFM is another machine (simpler). Hence - should be cheaper, for example.

F=floppy (on-board)
M=TV-modulator (on-board).

STE has both features and muuuch more. So the guy seems to be deceptive.

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Really? Nooo. I had nothing to do with it.
I just pointed to the guys from Black Sun group that Rio is a "free lance" musician of C64. That's all. smile
That was all.

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...if anybody's interested - some samples-set (about 70 of them, various ones, I made from my synthesizer). Some of them might require a fine-tune (modern synth hardware appears to be crap).
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8p74gv

(Use the blue link: "Click here to start download from sendspace").

Byez,
Y

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Hi there,
the C64 music collection of my friend Rio, appeared on YouTube now:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL … _ydb49Yz5Z
Greetings,
Yerz

boaconstructor wrote:

DON'T YOU GUYS GET IT??? ITS LIKE SAYING "FIFTHED" CUZZ ITS A FIFTH OF VODKA JESUS


Hahahahaha. smile






All:

Well, I hope somebody will be recording it on video, or in fragments at least. smile


Greetzzzzzzzz!!!
Y