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I think we will never see that day since lots of people take it as a style, and lots of others take it as a medium.
We're in different pages of a book that originated in the same roots.

When they become communication, I agree. But it seemed to me tehre for a moment that they were both confused, after all, I think we all mostly agree that there are two aspects to what is current chipmusic, one formal/stylistic, the other methodical/procedural.

I see the same "mistake" of above being applied in this phrase. You refer to chipmusic as a genre, where I strongly believe it isn't, and this is the base of our "disagreement".
However, I do mention I use old computers to make the music, because it's the truth, but it's a mild mention, my intentions are different. I don't specifically forbid any of that people from finding about it, actually, I am contributing to it (posting here, major contributor in TCTD, etc) so that's not it, and specially, it isn't this:

If someone asks because they want to make it themselves0 they surely drop in the "trainspotter" category and information should and will be be given (again, I collaborate to the spreading of this information).

The general public, that who attends a gig (at least mine), only want a good time and good music. In a place like chipmusic.org or 8bitcollective, everybody will be interested in the tech aspects of it because they are music makers. Isn't it weird to play only for people who also do what you do? It would be a bit odd for me at least, and that is why I broaden my spectrum. In your case, I think instead of expanding, it's closed onto a niche, and this is my disagreement. I think it takes away from actually your music, o emphasize so much on how it's made.

Also, I do not hide what I use to create my music, at least not in that way, but making people not believe it's done with this or that is surely something I am for, trying to push each platform to the limit. That challenge is what makes me stick with chipmusic

When someone who makes these sounds with a VST is among our community, I think the hardware itself lost distinctiveness already. This is the "flaw" I see in saying chipmusic is a genre.

Keep up the great discussion ;D

Go there NOW and download ctrix_-_housemykolschup_2009.mod
You will not fucking regret it.
Also, ctrix_-_mindmelt_2008, phatcontroller_2009, inzahouse_2008, romzfunk_2007 .... what can I say... dude rocks

No, not really, but, in this case, this was a bit of a pot stirrer image macro, don;t you think?

One thing is styles, and one thing is methods.
If you use old computers to make music, that is amethod, not a style on itself. You mentioned that "the combination of styles" you mention always leaves you forgotten in a pile of others. Only you said this!

And where did I say that? Do you consider it that way? Are you trying to offend me?
The difference is, I don't "market" myself to anything like that. I develop myself in "regular" electronic music circles. You say you target people who want to hear videogame/chip music. I do not, it's just a side effect of the way I always made music (I just am oldschool and never upgraded, almost )

I didn't say it I see it as a novelty, for me it isn't. I said how you seem to "market  it". If you think I was saying your music sucks, there's obviously been a misunderstanding from your side. I was questioning the way you talk about it and how yu communicate it with others (I did this before in TCTD. Remember?)

That doesn't mean it's any good

Irrlicht indeed does rock.
I want to make a shout out for Flashbob too: http://8bitcollective.com/members/flashbob/

Of course will do so. I'm scavenging more links .
But I don't want to overload it, the basic stuff is the most important and I am pretty much covered already.