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agreed! I feel like a lot of the pushing of the progressive part of the chip scene has come at the expense of a lot of great chip dance music. it's fine to want musicians to progress the aesthetic, but people don't have to do it at the cost of everything else! I've found that a lot of people that like my music like it because it has those dance elements, anyway.

on the topic of chipmusic nights -- for the places that HAVE chip-only nights, it may seem like they're being used as crutches, but for us here in California, having a chip monthly is something that we've been trying to get going for a really long time now.

the problem with trying to branch out WITHOUT a chip night is that when you manage to snag the people at a show who want to listen to not only you, but other people of your aesthetic, if you don't have a regular monthly to refer them to, the most you can do is give them your facebook or artist page and that's a lot less conducive to a repeat attending than having a show with a name that you can refer them to.

that's the problem we're having in San Diego right now. we're playing lots of shows! before December, I was on track for a show every other week, and I was playing with rock bands, chillwave bands, DJs, everything! my friend Bleeds opened for Freezepop two weeks ago! but every time we get someone to come up to us and ask us where they can find our music, the most we can do is refer them to a Facebook page or something. it would be a LOT more powerful if we could tell those people that they could listen to us every first Friday of the month or something!

chipmusic nights are important. it's great to want to expand the scene, but it shouldn't come at the expense of the chip-only nights unless most of the chipmusicians are REALLY popular in your city.

also I agree with everything that pixls is saying

down here in San Diego, we've kind of had the opposite problem. there's a pretty nice burgeoning electronic scene and a really good indie electronic/rock scene, and for the last year I've been playing gigs with some pretty great acts that both live and tour here!

the problem is that it's hard to overcome that predominant attitude of one-off-ness that we seem to get around here. it's not that people don't enjoy chipmusic or think that it's childish or whatever, but it's really hard to get anyone to "stick" to an artist, much less a style, because not only are we competing with the more established indie acts, but we also have everybody and their brother DJing top-40/electro house every night.

normally I'd be way into simply getting into one of those nights (and I'm not ruling it out), but the promoters and the people running those nights are kind of assholes in that they're totally the kind of people that make you sell tickets to claim your spot on that night (sell less than 50 tickets and you're not playing). and there also seems to be this attitude of dog-eat-dog with the electronic scene here, simply because there are so many acts that JUST DJ.

That's kind of why I've always thought we needed at least a bi-monthly here in San Diego. it's going to be a pain in the ass to promote, but if we can get a small audience to come out to an all-chip show, then I think we have a shot at making a statement in the scene at large. and it's happened before! there have been two all-chip shows that have been really great in the last year, showing us that there's at least an audience willing to listen! all we need to do is get that audience from "willing to listen" to "really wanting to listen."

if anyone is scheduling shows from december 18th to january 3rd, I'll be in the area!

what's so special about tokyo that makes it so you play haunted candies without us yelling at you for half an hour trash80

the idea of chipmusic as mainstream/public comes down to what you define chipmusic as, which is probably an annoying thing to say considering that hella people have said it already

honestly, the only way to think about chipmusic (aesthetically) as being underground/not mainstream is to stick to the idea of a chipmusic medium in that you're still composing on video game hardware. it's an easy label for outsiders who need to categorize this kind of music, but it's a really terrible label for us as musicians trying to parse our way through it because it's a label that doesn't refer to just the aesthetic NOR the method of creation. aesthetically, it's mainstream, medium-wise, it's not, culturally, it is/isn't? it's just a tough label to work through.

I guess it's just really surprising for us (or me) because they've already embraced what chipmusic as a culture is just getting to grips with -- namely, video game hardware NOT being in the center of the music's image. it's like a simultaneous crossing over of us into mainstream-ish territory and them into underground-ish territory.

kind of like when that britney spears dubstep song dropped! all the dubstep heads lost their shit because their image of dubstep music being underground was shattered when the aesthetic got rebranded as a "Britney Spears song with dubstep in it", instead of a "Dubstep song with Britney Spears in it." when your aesthetic isn't the main idea/image/thing being portrayed in the music, you've become "pop" music. replace "dubstep" with "chipmusic" and you've pretty much got the same thing happening.