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gyms wrote:defiantsystems wrote:That you view capitalism as exploitative. That's a lengthy discussion that's not really appropriate to this topic or this forum but basically making money isn't morally corrupt. If people are willing to give you money for your efforts then take it.
haha, what's not exploitative about taking advantage of ignorance?! what thought process do you think marketing strategies come from?
and people don't just hand money over to you unless there really is a demand for it. all this talk is about 'creating more demand' for chip music to make money which is conniving as fuq
What ignorance are people take advantage of? You either like chipmusic or you don't. Is someone tricking you into liking chipmusic?
XC3N wrote:to gyms and defiant:
I meant that doing something as a hobby/passion and doing something for a living are two different things and that having to deal with the harsh realities of making music and/or chiptune for a living could be a very valid reason to "refuse money to write music for a living".
I also wasn't targeting anyone with that at all. Just that I would be reticent to do music for a living because it looks like it's fucking hell.
Doing it for fun is amazing, though.
I was speaking more along the lines of doing what I do now. Writing music I want to write and performing it, that sounds awesome. But I see where you're coming from and that could be awful but would probably be better than my current job.
gyms wrote:@defiantsystems,
what do you see as misguided?
That you view capitalism as exploitative. That's a lengthy discussion that's not really appropriate to this topic or this forum but basically making money isn't morally corrupt. If people are willing to give you money for your efforts then take it.
gyms wrote:my point is that no one writes chipmusic for a living outside of what, two groups of people? no one that visits a chipmusic forum is going to be writing chipmusic *for a living* in 2013.
and you can't refuse money that was never really in your hands anyway, what you're talking about is some fantastic hypothetical situation. and from this angle, yes there is a moral issue that pisses me off.
i hate how capitalism has everyone thinking they're so clever and just look to exploit whatever they can for profit. chipmusic in the most common and practical sense is monetarily worthless. but that obviously doesn't mean it has no worth. most people just enjoy making music with neat sounds, enjoying the nostalgia trip/whatever and sharing the experience with friends and other people they meet online. this is not a pipedream btw, this is the reality of what happens every day with hundreds of submissions from people across various sites.
and to take that and convince yourself that there's money to be made isn't just some morally unsound notion, but it just goes to show what a creep you are.
not calling you a creep, not calling you a faggot; i'm speaking on a general ground here
Other than your misguided view of capitalism I agree with you. My initial post in this thread was in similar vein everything after was just entertaining the hypothetical notion of making money.
XC3N wrote:if you don't get it then clearly you've never written music for a living.
What?
gyms wrote:yea i sure did play up the stereotypical 'internet tough guy' bit didn't i? yea nice out-of-the-hat phrase
and i'm dumb because? so i was a bit aggressive but it's because i can't take any of this chipmoney talk seriously. 'refuse another outlet of revenue' i like how everyone's a businessman trying to handle their business, man.
You're dumb because you give the impression that you would refuse money to write music for a living. I don't get it. Does the refusal of that money put you on some higher moral plane of artistry?
gyms wrote:defiantsystems wrote:Why not? If you could make money why wouldn't you?
Becuase then you'd be a huge capitalist faggot. If you wanna MAEKMONYMONYMAEKMONYOMONY then go to school and get a real fucking job that's actually needed in your country.
Cool internet tough guy attitude.
I have a "real" (whatever that means) job now but if I could make money off of something I like doing why would I refuse that outlet of revenue? You're dumb dude.
egr wrote:These "i wanna help make chiptunesmusic bigger! 
" usually get the same (good!) suggestions which all boil down to "be a supportive member of the community". As in, just do what we are all already doing. The "meta-question" that maybe we should be looking at is: Is there anything that actually WOULD make chipmusic available to a much wider audience and do we even WANT to do those things?
Why not? If you could make money why wouldn't you?
Potentially there's money in booking and promotion but even then your profit margin is small. You're dealing in a niche market driven mainly by nostalgia. I wish I could tell you you've stumbled into an untapped market just bursting with opportunity but there isn't.
Spaceman wrote:Also, it's probably a little nit-picky of me, but i have to press the down button rather hard in order for it to register. I dunno its whatever
I wouldn't expect much out of pirated hardware.
Saskrotch wrote:can't you just stick to one of your other FMDrive threads?
Any focus outside of LSDJ the better.
This is from his Twitter. All FMDrive.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5kc4t3qgtf81b … est%29.mp3
EDIT: Nevermind I guess I have forum access now. Could have sworn it said I needed a confirmation e-mail.
I gotta say the more I mess with this VST the more I'm surprised at the range of what the Sega sound chip can actually do. It's pretty incredible.
Registered. Hopefully some more FM minded people migrate over.
Do the GB Boys work with the EMS carts?
Keep your on the go lifestyle out of the Nintendo Console section!
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