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^ not *quite* what i was asking but your mind went outside the box so thats very cool...  and in a good way too.  (i'm not evaluating its possibilities just saying you make a good point about possible wasted potential in this regard)

mainly i just need to know about peoples preferred button macros for the 4 extra buttons which don't have a direct corresponding DMG button.  either program-specific, or generic macros.

i added your overall thought to the list of ideas:

http://chipmusic.org/forums/post/155844/#p155844

i'll just update that one with contributions and link back to them for ease.

thanks so much for the input!  really appreciate it

^ you could add the 4 extra buttons to the DMG itself, or use an external controller for all the controls.  thats a decision for the end-user to make (the circuit will do your idea though, if i understand you correctly)

the circuit will be inside the DMG either way.  so it can do what you're asking, totally.  at least thats my intent.  it will integrate with another project no one knows about, so it needs to remain inside the DMG.  if the user uses external controllers they'd either need to hard-wire the controller to the circuit, or create a port on the side of their dmg so it could be unplugged.  but, that's totally their call.  it could, like you said, be used to just add four new buttons to the DMG, with nothing else.  the button on the DMG held down during start-up would determine the macros for the 4 extra buttons.

but also you could use an external controller.  or you could add four extra buttons to a NES controller (if you run the wire back to the circuit).  or, add 4 buttons to a stomp box for the 4 extra ones, and use a nes controller, and run around like a mad person and have control still.

its really whatever the user wants, within some limits.  basically....  think:
-- adds ability to add 4 extra buttons
-- adds macro functions for these extra buttons
-- macro function 'set' is chosen by button-press during start-up
-- can be controlled via external controllers (NES/FAM can add 4 buttons, SNES has these buttons built-in), but doesn't have to be

its sort of an open-ended user application.  i'll post a functional diagram today i suppose, if that will help.

so this

(an example, button 'whatever' because i don't care, if you have a preference just mention it, that part doesn't matter so much)

BUTTON              X                   Y                   RIGHT SHOULDER      LEFT SHOULDER       APPLICATION

whatever            A (fast turbo)      B (fast turbo)      A (slow turbo)      B (slow turbo)      universal (turbo mode)

fast/slow tbd
turbo = repeated button on/offs

just to answer some questions i've gotten:

-- no, you do not have to fill out the whole chart.  if you only have one mapping to contribute, please do!  just indicate the program/application its for
-- yes, you can do a 'universal' mapping that isn't program-specific!  this would be wonderful
-- as thebitman noted, we can't create new features in the software (such as pressing X and jumping to the load/save/erase screen from wherever you are atm).  we can automate button presses, even SELECT+B,B, but bear in mind that there might be a software element to this outside the control of what this circuit can automate (like, how fast a 'double-tap' is defined by the software).  a 'double-tap' may not always be recognized as one by all softwares, or by your copy if you've edited preferences.

^ with that last thought in mind, that doesn't exclude a double-tap being used under the conditions there is a documented 'double-tap' time that everyone could change settings to meet, develop their code to anticipate, or whatnot.

^ yes, as long as you keep the same sav file (don't mess with the button which says 'format', or any of the ones that say SRAM on them in the software)

its always better to back up your sav file (read SRAM) before you do anything.

then, just write the new LSDJ to the cart.  it will read the same sav file as 4.6.9

i used to enjoy reading, until i read this thread...

^ 'used to'

edit -- apparently we don't have to sort grammar out on a chipmusic website, there is this one already!  http://english.stackexchange.com/questi … mmatically