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(0 replies, posted in Releases)

I finally got around to setting up a new Bandcamp for ALL my music, chiptune or not. There's a lot of things that were once under separate names now consolidated under one label. So, anyway, here's links to the chiptune albums:

http://8lntapes.bandcamp.com/album/komono

http://8lntapes.bandcamp.com/album/world-walker

http://8lntapes.bandcamp.com/album/a-yo … to-romance

http://8lntapes.bandcamp.com/album/poltergeist-projects

http://8lntapes.bandcamp.com/album/stobophobe

Hopefully you can get some enjoyment out these old tunes.

I'm really digging this stuff, thanks!

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(8 replies, posted in Software & Plug-ins)

De La Mancha's "Basic 65" and "Basic 64" are both easy to use and free.

http://delamanchavst.wordpress.com/instruments/

And I'm also a fan of "Bleep'" by Tonebytes, also easy to use and free, although more inspired by the C64 than a direct emulation of it:

http://tonebytes.com/bleep/

I think they all sound pretty good. You can at least use them to get samples of the combo-waveforms, those are the only sounds that you couldn't just use any other VST to get. Well, maybe table-style sounds won't be that easy either.

I only have experience with the FMDrive VST, but I've found that I'm never totally happy with the percussion sounds (including kick, snare, hihats, etc) I can get out of it. Probably says more about my programming than the chip's capabilities though. The LFO can modulate the pitch, just find the right amount of pitch modulation and adjust the amp envelope to your liking. It will still sound closer to Simmons toms than anything I'd call "punchy".

For kicks I usually just use a short envelope and then play around with the algorithms and carrier/operator frequencies to achieve something that resembles a kick drum. If played higher up on the keyboard, I imagine the sound could pass as toms.

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(30 replies, posted in General Discussion)

snesei wrote:

LOL this thread, but yeah a few Piko dudes moved away sad there are only a few of us right now but I am definitely down to hang. I'll send you my number on soundcloud message.

Vaina Moinen wrote:

Hello, I happen to reside in Westland, nice to meet you!

dude that's real close to me, I live in Inkster

No shit! The bassist in my band lives in Inkster too.

Actually, you may know the other guitarist in the band, he's friends with Barbecue. He does electronic stuff as Jaws That Bite, I know he's played shows with some of the Piko guys.

This is turning into some kind of chiptune variant of six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

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(30 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Hello, I happen to reside in Westland, nice to meet you!

For the first video you posted, the synth at 1:42 sounds A LOT like the synth that comes in at 0:58 in this old tracker tune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHgawgeTbBc

You can download the module here:

http://modarchive.org/index.php?request … uery=70716

And then open it up in MilkyTracker and save that particular sample to your computer. Maybe if you do some research about that particular module you can figure out what synth it is that makes that sound. It's gotta be some commercially popular one from the late 80's, early 90's. My guess is a Roland D-50 preset.

The guitar sounds way too natural to be just a few samples, sounds more like most of the leads were played live, maybe I'm wrong though as that would take a lot of memory.

Also, the song itself sounds EXACTLY like this Yngwie Malmsteen song called "Far Beyond The Sun":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAsHFSrh0i8

It's obviously a tribute or something. Yngwie was probably pretty popular in Japan at the time the Ys games were coming out.

Brother Android wrote:

But "experimental" is not a very useful label, to me. Isn't all decent music rooted in experimentation of some kind? And doesn't all music stop being an experiment at some point if you decide to work on it and polish it and release it? I dunno; I'm sure this isn't the place for this conversation but I feel like the term is somehow a little insulting to everyone inside AND outside the category.

I totally agree with this. "Experimental" doesn't really indicate anything about the music. I never assume I'm about to hear radio-friendly pop when I see a track labelled as "experimental", but other than that, I never know what to expect. Maybe that's the point.

There are some musicians who feel that experimental music should be just that, an experiment. Like say, Brian Eno's ambient albums where he sets up some tape loops and lets them all playback at different times to see what happens. Music that has a hypothesis and then goes about testing that hypothesis. I like this idea, and would probably say that's what experimental music should really be if we were forced to give it a strict definition.

I personally dig a lot of noise/drone/experimental/avant-garde music, though I don't listen to it for the same reasons I listen to the Beach Boys, say, or chipmusic. It has it's place. I made ONLY noise music for six or seven months back in 2008. I collected far too many guitar pedals during that period of time. I still play around with the genre every now and then, but more in a droney way. I haven't ever tried doing chip-noise but maybe that would be a fun experiment.

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(0 replies, posted in Releases)

"When All The World Was Very Young"

One of my old songs that I wrote on guitar with vocals but never ended up finishing, so I turned it into a sample-y tracker song.

https://vainamoinen.bandcamp.com/track/ … very-young

As long as using samples in a tracker counts as "making chip", then I'll be doing this forever. Whether it sounds like video games or not, well, fuck it.

Now, about the lack of growth or development of the "scene"... There's been a trend towards EDM in all music in general for the last decade. That will go away, probably sooner than later. I don't know if it will ever disappear from chiptunes, though. Think about how easy it is to make 4 On The Floor stuff in a tracker. Really fucking easy. There's more to it than just holding "Z" with a space value of 4 or 8, but basically, it's really fucking easy.

Then there's the use of pattern chains as the structural method, which lends itself to EDM production, and the use of common synthesizer waveforms in many different platforms for chipmusic creation, which also lends itself to EDM production, and it starts to seem like chipmusic and it's means of production is almost purpose made for EDM. It's not, but it's easier than attempting Beethoven using the same means.

Also, many of the older tracker group music disks were mostly an EDM genre of some sort. House, techno, jungle. The popular 90's stuff. It wasn't technically chiptunes but it's part of the heritage.

I personally prefer the ultra-melodic, European tracker stuff, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRCZ8l4pAk4

That, and the other music like it, is what I have always thought of as chiptunes. Before I ever found this forum, or attempted making chip myself, I listened to tunes like that and imagined there was a world out there of musicians who were virtuosos with melody.

I came to find that currently, chipmusic IS mostly just EDM that's been realized on a Gameboy, but there are still people out there doing the melodic stuff, and those out there doing other things beyond, as well. EDM works well for live shows. It works well with the most popular non-tracker software, like Live. It's easier to get into than learning scales and theory, although maybe that's contentious because it requires it's own separate set of rules.

Of course, it all comes down to the fact that "chiptune" is one of the niche-iest of niche genres, and no one but people like us will even give two hoots about it. It's probably better to appreciate what you like, ignore what you don't, and try not to eat each other alive when there's only a population of MAYBE tens of thousands to begin with.

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(6 replies, posted in Releases)

Pleasant and melodic! I enjoyed it.

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(2 replies, posted in Releases)

Cool stuff, I like the minimal setup. You're gonna love the Volca Beats when it arrives. I basically haven't touched my Monotribe since getting the 3 Volcas.

shizcake wrote:

very nice!

Thanks!

Not sure what to call chiptunes made with samples like this, Amiga style? This is "Intuitively Cool Shoelace Machine Gun". Sampled my usual Korg VST's, blah blah blah, Renoise, yada yada. A happy lil' tune.

https://vainamoinen.bandcamp.com/track/ … achine-gun

Thanks for listening.

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(14 replies, posted in General Discussion)

I don't give two thirds of a fuck, to the point where I may think of one I like and just write it down for later, applying it randomly to whatever track needs a title. Usually I try to come up with something preposterous and ultimately meaningless, hopefully on the spot when I'm creating the first save file for the track.

I DO avoid single word titles, and anything in the realm of working titles like "Happy Song" or "Wicked Riff Number 2".

I don't really try to describe the music in a title, but the song may suggest certain imagery.

I have a MUCH harder time thinking of band or project names. That kind of thing is way too final and important, and it freaks me out. I don't even like "Vaina Moinen" all that much, but it's the best I could come up with and I've accepted it.

Another tune using my currently preferred setup of FMDrive samples in Renoise.

https://vainamoinen.bandcamp.com/track/ … neral-cows

Thanks for listening! Drink your milk!