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If there's any channel in lsdj im not good with its the wave channel. I have been making that simple square wave bass since i started and im coming to hate it. I know the wave channel can make a whole bunch of sounds, but i just cant seem to work it. for example the song "everybody die" by less<3an (http://less3an.bandcamp.com/track/every-body-die) has so many sounds it blows my mind. Any tips or advice?

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Seattle, WA US

Keep fucking around with it. I can't tell you how many hours I've put into developing new wave channel instruments

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Italy

Around the web (on youtube, for instance) you can find various patches of LSDJ basses: some are similar between them and some are really different (like the yah talking bass).

But seriously, experiments make the best instruments.
Anyway, I'll give you some of my thoughts:
The triangle synth set in manual sounds a lot cleaner than any other bass, while the saw and the square are a little more "raw"
Don't put the volume too high or low and for better results take the volume at different values of start and end. If the wave sounds kind of empty, try adding resonance (the Q value)
I still haven't exactly figured out what vshift does even if I have some kind of idea, but the most important thing is how it sounds to your ear!

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Granada, Spain

1. Manual mode > draw it by hand and add a little "destruction" to de wave.
2. Also, loop and ping pong mode works fine doing random things on synth screen.
3. Read the roboctopus articles.

But hey, a really quick-to-do typical bass in manual mode:

Wave: saw
Lowp
Q: 1
Clip
Normal

Start:
Volume: 80
Cutoff: B0
Phase: 00
Vshift: 00

Just try new things, its not hard, i always have new sounds in wav and im just a n00bish chiptune musician.

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The Multiverse ::: [CA, Sac]
boaconstructor wrote:

Keep fucking around with it. I can't tell you how many hours I've put into developing new wave channel instruments

Seriously. Wavchan fuckery is very addicting. I've definitely started pushing it further recently. Just take time out to go deep in it.

Oh. And use F commands.

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Auxcide wrote:
boaconstructor wrote:

Keep fucking around with it. I can't tell you how many hours I've put into developing new wave channel instruments

Seriously. Wavchan fuckery is very addicting. I've definitely started pushing it further recently. Just take time out to go deep in it.

Oh. And use F commands.

Its not like havent tried and messed with it. just wanted to know if there was some kind of method or something on how you get your sound the way you want. also F commands are like a double edge sword to me, either they work or they dont. like just a second ago all my wave instruments got all screwy (yes i remembered to change the synth screen)

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Nottingham, UK

When you get your head around the filter, your bass sounds will really start to gain some movement and life.

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Seattle, WA US
Auxcide wrote:

Oh. And use F commands.

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's a secret

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Madison, Alabama

I am writing a series of articles on LSDJ techniques over at noisechannel.org.  A bunch of them cover WAV channel techniques.  My goal is to help people understand how everything works so they can experiment more confidently.  The articles include explanations, patches, and examples.  Maybe check them out?

These all deal with WAV techniques.

http://www.noisechannel.org/4515
http://www.noisechannel.org/4691
http://www.noisechannel.org/4824
http://www.noisechannel.org/4889
http://www.noisechannel.org/4966
http://www.noisechannel.org/5138
http://www.noisechannel.org/8180

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Czech republic

^ this!

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Puerto Rico

Read the roboctopus articles and that's all the intro you need to start making your own sounds.

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Buenos Aires, Argentina

I never used LSDJ, but it have something like a Waveform Macro/Envelope?, in order to switch rapidly the data and then obtain a more complex waveform.

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Sydney, NSW
roboctopus wrote:

understand how everything works so they can experiment more confidently.

roboctopus wrote:

understand how everything works so they can experiment more confidently.

roboctopus wrote:

understand how everything works so they can experiment more confidently.

I cannot stress this enough! Blindly wanking around in the dark might work for some, but it's dead-hard to get experimenting with no footholds to start out with.

Sure, experimenting is the way to go in most cases with chipmusic, but knowing -how- to experiment can help out greatly.

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roboctopus wrote:

I am writing a series of articles on LSDJ techniques over at noisechannel.org.  A bunch of them cover WAV channel techniques.  My goal is to help people understand how everything works so they can experiment more confidently.  The articles include explanations, patches, and examples.  Maybe check them out?

These all deal with WAV techniques.

http://www.noisechannel.org/4515
http://www.noisechannel.org/4691
http://www.noisechannel.org/4824
http://www.noisechannel.org/4889
http://www.noisechannel.org/4966
http://www.noisechannel.org/5138
http://www.noisechannel.org/8180


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orange county, CA

Definitely just keep messing with it, and defenitely read the articles, they helped me understand so much more. Then, just go into your wav channel and begin doing random nonsense and get intresting sounds.

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detroit

there are about 20 of these threads already in existence.

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