Not that anyone knows who I am, but it's pretty common nowadays to use nouns as verbs and it didn't really seem like a troll comment to me. I found some of the comments to be unwarranted.
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Honestly, I just didn't know how to word my question. If I were talking to my friends about songs and the creation of songs we would totally say "dubstep that shit up" or whatever. In fact I was making an electronic song with my friend, just for fun (not on my gameboy of course), and he said "it needs to be dubstepped..." I knew exactly what he meant. However, I concede I was in the wrong and I should've been more clear.
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Godzilladelph
for future reference, please never irl ask me, or any of my friends to "dubstep that shit up"
thanks in advance and have a nice weekend!
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I've no doubt that I'll be fucked in the ass for asking but, why is that not ok to say? Musicians say "it needs to be more rock/jazz/bluesy" all the time.
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The City Of Angels
huh... interesting thread... well, since it makes no sense whatsoever at this point, here some chip/dubstep inspired stuff I really been digging in more recent times, Balam Acab:
Really liking his stuff.
Ignore any witch-house people 'want' to associate the young 19 gentleman with.
He kinda reminds me of Aphex Twin's more ambient stuff. In fact, this is what I'd imagine he'd be doing, had he started out making music around this era of music, rather than decades ago. He's like Aphex Twin reincarnated, in a way :p
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Godzilladelph
idk man, it just bothers me a bit. I'm sensitive ok! *gosh*
don't worry i won't fuck you in the ass. unless you ask nicely
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philly
My favorite responses are always the no-BS ones, so kudos to Sam and Ninjeti!
pnada, something the chipmusic community at large is kind of guilty of is having zero patience for questions that imply a lack of knowledge. It's the same in a lot of communities. Maybe people don't have a patience for seeing 'newbish' questions (how do I get the mp3 files out of lsdj?) frequently? I dunno, but I don't care for it. I know that sometimes it's funny, but being straightforward and avoiding condescension always makes the coolest response.
Good communities give good answers.
Anyways, thankfully it's not a nasty place here. This forum rules and so do all the people I know here IRL. Don't be afraid to ask any questions because there's a great wealth of knowledge here and someone can always help. 
I'm not an experienced LSDJ user, but I imagine studying the capabilities of Live Mode will clarify what sorts of live manipulation are available. It's likely it will prove more limiting than you expected, since it's generally used for triggering pre-sequenced segments (right?). The most basic trick would be to turn a song thats form was verse1 verse2 chorus, to verse 1 chorus verse 2. You can do cooler stuff than that, but yeah. Actually, it's these same limitations that gets you creative thinking, which is something I love about this scene. I have a friend who built foot pedals that replaced the buttons of a gameboy, so he could trigger sections in live mode without stopping on guitar...
Here's a good thread:
http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/530/l … alsvideos/
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pnada wrote:
I've no doubt that I'll be fucked in the ass for asking but, why is that not ok to say? Musicians say "it needs to be more rock/jazz/bluesy" all the time.
It is mostly because there is a strange obsession with a lot of the noobs with dubstep. we get questions all the time like "how do i make dubstep", what color should i paint my gameboy", and "how do i make a drum sound." these questions have been answered a million times, are fairly simple. it can be quite annoying. In the case of dubstep its popularity has increased and the annoying questions about dubstep have become frequent. that's why it pisses some of us off (myself included).
If you want to do dubstep or whatever genre of music you want then instead of asking old questions, learn from the questions of others that have been already answered. I think that it is a good idea for a lot of the new comers to learn at 8bc because there is a lot of info there from older users with experience left there and a lot of others who are learning with you too. you can learn from what we have already found out. All the information is already there you just have to look.
Because of a moral fiasco that occurred on 8bc and the growing crowd and i believe growing frustration of the older users having to deal with the younger ones a lot of us have come here.
I come to CM because I feel like i have out grown the 8bc community and rarely learn anything new there. That is why i come here for the more advanced and interesting stuff. 8bc is great place to learn but it can be easy to get sucked into. use it as a reference. that is the best advice i can give you.
Sometimes i get a bit over protective of CM cuz I dont want to see the quality of the information and news depreciate. I think thats why i am so quick to negativity over simple or vague questions.
thats basically it. end of rant.
wait... for the general public... BUT FOR REAL THO STOP TRYING TO MAKE MARIO SOUNDS AND BASIC ASS SHIT THAT EMULATES OLD SOUNDS!!!!! MAKE SOMETHING NEW ALL U FUCKERS. GB HAS SOME BAD ASSS SYNTHESIS CAPABILITIES. USE THAT SHIT. Learn synthesis and sound design damn it. if you slap that shit together with some bad ass composing you going to have some kick ass music. I havent listened to a chip release in over a year cuz people keep doing the same thing. lets take this somewhere different.
*this doesn't pertain to all chip musicians. only to those that just think its cool to have a gameboy sound like a boring ass gameboy.
o..... also....fuck your couch. i am not as angry as i sound i promise. i just want to see this community grow and not do the same thing over and over. kisses.
end end of rant.
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Alright, that cleared things up for me, I was under the impression that I was getting hate because of the way I worded my question (which is half true). Seems people were thinking I was asking how to make dubstep. This is untrue, I can do that just fine. What I was asking was how to make my music more interesting live by changing things up (whether with LSDJ or with other technology). I admit that I used the terms incorrectly, so I can see why people were getting confused. I do appreciate how people were trying to be helpful despite the misunderstanding/anger stemming from the poorly worded question, thats cool. I can dig that. Anyway thanks a lot everyone and again, I'm sorry for the poorly worded question (that would've solved a lot of problems).
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This letter is going to be a book of revelations to many readers. In particular, many will be surprised to learn that the foundation and wellspring of pnada's circulars is the fatuous doctrine of snobbism. Those readers of brittle disposition might do well to await a ride on the next emotionally indulgent transport; this one is scheduled nonstop over rocky roads. As soon as you're strapped in I'll announce something to the effect of how pnada wants us to think of it as a do-gooder. Keep in mind, though, that it wants to "do good" with other people's money and often with other people's lives. If pnada really wanted to be a do-gooder, it could start by admitting that all of its protests are local and personal and consequently gross and selfish. Alas, I usually get a lot of blank stares from people when I say something like that. What I mean is that I no longer believe that trends like family breakdown, promiscuity, and violence are random events. Not only are they explicitly glorified and promoted by pnada's crass, fork-tongued insinuations, but people often get the impression that meddlesome big-mouths and pnada's followers are separate entities. Not so. When one catches cold, the other sneezes. As proof, note that I frequently wish to tell pnada that its claim of fairness is demonstrably false. But being a generally genteel person, however, I always bite my tongue.
If you understand that pnada can't see beyond its own paltry, impractical concerns, then you can comprehend that my current plan is to make pnada answer for its wrongdoings. Yes, it will draw upon the most powerful fires of Hell to tear that plan asunder, but no man who values himself, who has any regard for sound morality, or who feels any desire to see intellectual progress made certain, can rightfully join its avaricious attempt to work hand-in-glove with rude vermin. I have a problem with pnada's use of the phrase, "We all know that...". With this phrase, it doesn't need to prove its claim that free speech is wonderful as long as you're not bashing it and the psychotic yahoos in its brownshirt brigade; it merely accepts it as fact. To put it another way, I wonder if it really believes the things it says. It knows they're not true, doesn't it? Well, you don't need Sherlock Holmes to solve that mystery. Heck, you probably don't even need Scooby Doo. Neverthess, let me remind you that a central fault line runs through each of pnada's theatrics. Specifically, pnada used to maintain that it's heinous to give it condign punishment. When it realized that no one was falling for that claptrap, it quickly changed its tune to say that vulgar, infantile anarchists should be given absolute authority to make life less pleasant for us. Pnada is truly a contumelious liar, and shame on anyone who believes it.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe pnada can achieve its goals by friendly and moral conduct. Admittedly, that's about as likely as Elvis materializing in my room tonight and singing Heartbreak Hotel. Still, the possibility does help one realize that I'm at loggerheads with pnada on at least one important issue. Namely, it argues that it has the authority to issue licenses for practicing Marxism. I take the opposite position, that pnada believes it's perfectly okay to peddle fake fears to the public. More than anything else, such beliefs shed light on pnada's moral values and suggest incontrovertibly that it looks primarily at a person's superficial qualities such as physiognomy and mannerisms. I, in contrast, consider how likely a person is to hold pnada responsible for the hatred it so furtively expresses. That's what's important to me. Either way, it may scrap the notion of national sovereignty right after it reads this letter. Let it. Sooner than you think, I will fix our sights on eternity.
By writing this letter, I am undeniably sticking my head far above the parapet. The big danger is that pnada will retaliate against me. It'll most likely try to force me to suffer from stress, frustration, and defeat although another possibility is that it has been trying to convince us that it's okay if its mind games initially cause our quality of life to degrade because "sometime", "someone" will do "something" "somehow" to counteract that trend. That argument fails to take into account the reality that I am truly at a loss for words when pnada asserts that drug money is being used to pay for the construction of huge underground cities intended to house both humans and aliens who serve a secret, transnational shadow government. It can't possibly be serious. I suspect that the real story here is that if you think that all literature that opposes faddism was forged by conniving sociopaths, then think again.
Pnada must think that being jealous entitles one to create an atmosphere that may temporarily energize or exhilarate but which, at the same time, will pose the gravest of human threats. If we are to create a world in which jingoism, propagandism, and cannibalism are all but forgotten, then we must be guided by a healthy and progressive ideology, not by the balmy and unsympathetic ideologies that pnada promotes. I can indisputably suggest how pnada ought to behave. Ultimately, however, the burden of acting with moral rectitude lies with pnada itself. As a final reminder, please don't let pnada's prevarications dissuade you from pronouncing an enlightened and just judgment upon it. Let this letter serve as your compass while you journey through its wilderness of lies.
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Arsenal Football Club started out as Dial Square in 1886 by workers at the Royal Arsenal in Woolwich, south-east London, and was renamed Royal Arsenal shortly afterwards.[3] The club was renamed again to Woolwich Arsenal after becoming a limited company in 1893.[4] The club became the first southern member of the Football League in 1893, starting out in the Second Division, and won promotion to the First Division in 1904. The club's relative geographic isolation resulted in lower attendances than those of other clubs, which led to the club becoming mired in financial problems and effectively bankrupt by 1910, when they were taken over by businessmen Henry Norris and William Hall.[5] Norris sought to move the club elsewhere, and in 1913, soon after relegation back to the Second Division, Arsenal moved to the new Arsenal Stadium in Highbury, North London; they dropped "Woolwich" from their name the following year.[6] Arsenal only finished in fifth place in 1919, but were nevertheless elected to rejoin the First Division at the expense of local rivals Tottenham Hotspur, by reportedly dubious means.[7]
Arsenal appointed Herbert Chapman as manager in 1925. Having already won the league twice with Huddersfield Town in 1923–24 and 1924–25 (see Seasons in English football), Chapman brought Arsenal their first period of major success. His revolutionary tactics and training, along with the signings of star players such as Alex James and Cliff Bastin, laid the foundations of the club's domination of English football in the 1930s.[8] Under his guidance Arsenal won their first major trophies – victory in the 1930 FA Cup Final preceded two League Championships, in 1930–31 and 1932–33. In addition, Chapman was behind the 1932 renaming of the local London Underground station from "Gillespie Road" to "Arsenal", making it the only Tube station to be named specifically after a football club.[9]
Chapman died suddenly of pneumonia in early 1934, leaving Joe Shaw and George Allison to carry on his successful work. Under their guidance, Arsenal won three more titles, in 1933–34, 1934–35 and 1937–38, and the 1936 FA Cup. As key players retired, Arsenal had started to fade by the decade's end, and then the intervention of the Second World War meant competitive professional football in England was suspended.[10][11][12]
After the war, Arsenal enjoyed a second period of success under Allison's successor Tom Whittaker, winning the league in 1947–48 and 1952–53, and the FA Cup in 1950. Their fortunes waned thereafter; unable to attract players of the same calibre as they had in the 1930s, the club spent most of the 1950s and 1960s in trophyless mediocrity. Even former England captain Billy Wright could not bring the club any success as manager, in a stint between 1962 and 1966.[12][13][14]
Arsenal began winning silverware again with the surprise appointment of club physiotherapist Bertie Mee as manager in 1966. After losing two League Cup finals, they won their first European trophy, the 1969–70 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup. This was followed by an even greater triumph: their first League and FA Cup double in 1970–71.[15] This marked a premature high point of the decade; the Double-winning side was soon broken up and the following decade was characterised by a series of near misses. Arsenal finished as First Division runners-up in 1972–73, lost three FA Cup finals, in 1972, 1978 and 1980, and lost the 1980 Cup Winners' Cup final on penalties. The club's only success during this time was a last-minute 3–2 victory over Manchester United in the 1979 FA Cup Final, widely regarded as a classic.[12][16]
The return of former player George Graham as manager in 1986 brought a third period of glory. Arsenal won the League Cup in 1986–87, Graham's first season in charge. This was followed by a League title win in 1988–89, won with a last-minute goal in the final game of the season against fellow title challengers Liverpool. Graham's Arsenal won another title in 1990–91, losing only one match, won the FA Cup and League Cup double in 1993, and a second European trophy, the Cup Winners' Cup, in 1994.[12][17] Graham's reputation was tarnished when he was found to have taken kickbacks from agent Rune Hauge for signing certain players,[18] and he was dismissed in 1995. His replacement, Bruce Rioch, lasted for only one season, leaving the club after a dispute with the board of directors.[19]
Arsenal's players and fans celebrate their 2004 League title win with an open-top bus parade.
The club's success in the late 1990s and first decade of the 21st century owed a great deal to the 1996 appointment of Arsène Wenger as manager. Wenger brought new tactics, a new training regime and several foreign players who complemented the existing English talent. Arsenal won a second League and Cup double in 1997–98 and a third in 2001–02. In addition, the club reached the final of the 1999–2000 UEFA Cup (losing on penalties to Galatasaray), were victorious in the 2003 and 2005 FA Cups, and won the Premier League in 2003–04 without losing a single match, an achievement which earned the side the nickname "The Invincibles";[20] in all, the club went 49 league matches unbeaten, a national record.[21]
Arsenal finished in either first or second place in the league in eight of Wenger's first eleven seasons at the club, although on no occasion were they able to retain the title.[12] As of 2009, they were one of only four teams, the others being Manchester United, Blackburn Rovers and Chelsea, to have won the Premier League since its formation in 1992.[22] Arsenal had never progressed beyond the quarter-finals of the Champions League until 2005–06; in that season they became the first club from London in the competition's fifty-year history to reach the final, in which they were beaten 2–1 by Barcelona.[23] In July 2006, they moved into the Emirates Stadium, after 93 years at Highbury.[24]
Unveiled in 1888, Royal Arsenal's first crest featured three cannons viewed from above, pointing northwards, similar to the coat of arms of the Metropolitan Borough of Woolwich. These can sometimes be mistaken for chimneys, but the presence of a carved lion's head and a cascabel on each are clear indicators that they are cannons.[25] This was dropped after the move to Highbury in 1913, only to be reinstated in 1922, when the club adopted a crest featuring a single cannon, pointing eastwards, with the club's nickname, The Gunners, inscribed alongside it; this crest only lasted until 1925, when the cannon was reversed to point westward and its barrel slimmed down.[25] In 1949, the club unveiled a modernised crest featuring the same style of cannon below the club's name, set in blackletter, and above the coat of arms of the Metropolitan Borough of Islington and a scroll inscribed with the club's newly-adopted Latin motto, Victoria Concordia Crescit "victory comes from harmony", coined by the club's programme editor Harry Homer.[25] For the first time, the crest was rendered in colour, which varied slightly over the crest's lifespan, finally becoming red, gold and green.
A version of the Arsenal crest used from 1949 to 2002
Because of the numerous revisions of the crest, Arsenal were unable to copyright it. Although the club had managed to register the crest as a trademark, and had fought (and eventually won) a long legal battle with a local street trader who sold "unofficial" Arsenal merchandise,[26] Arsenal eventually sought a more comprehensive legal protection. Therefore, in 2002 they introduced a new crest featuring more modern curved lines and a simplified style, which was copyrightable.[27] The cannon once again faces east and the club's name is written in a sans-serif typeface above the cannon. Green was replaced by dark blue. The new crest was criticised by some supporters; the Arsenal Independent Supporters' Association claimed that the club had ignored much of Arsenal's history and tradition with such a radical modern design, and that fans had not been properly consulted on the issue.[28]
Until the 1960s, a badge was worn on the playing shirt only for high-profile matches such as FA Cup finals, usually in the form of a monogram of the club's initials in red on a white background.[29]
The monogram theme was developed into an Art Deco-style badge on which the letters A and C framed a football rather than the letter F, the whole set within a hexagonal border. This early example of a corporate logo, introduced as part of Herbert Chapman's rebranding of the club in the 1930s, was used not only on Cup Final shirts but as a design feature throughout Highbury Stadium, including above the main entrance and inlaid in the floors.[30] From 1967, a white cannon was regularly worn on the shirts, until replaced by the club crest, sometimes with the addition of the nickname "The Gunners", in the 1990s.[29]
Unveiled in 1888, Royal Arsenal's first crest featured three cannons viewed from above, pointing northwards, similar to the coat of arms of the Metropolitan Borough of Woolwich. These can sometimes be mistaken for chimneys, but the presence of a carved lion's head and a cascabel on each are clear indicators that they are cannons.[25] This was dropped after the move to Highbury in 1913, only to be reinstated in 1922, when the club adopted a crest featuring a single cannon, pointing eastwards, with the club's nickname, The Gunners, inscribed alongside it; this crest only lasted until 1925, when the cannon was reversed to point westward and its barrel slimmed down.[25] In 1949, the club unveiled a modernised crest featuring the same style of cannon below the club's name, set in blackletter, and above the coat of arms of the Metropolitan Borough of Islington and a scroll inscribed with the club's newly-adopted Latin motto, Victoria Concordia Crescit "victory comes from harmony", coined by the club's programme editor Harry Homer.[25] For the first time, the crest was rendered in colour, which varied slightly over the crest's lifespan, finally becoming red, gold and green.
A version of the Arsenal crest used from 1949 to 2002
Because of the numerous revisions of the crest, Arsenal were unable to copyright it. Although the club had managed to register the crest as a trademark, and had fought (and eventually won) a long legal battle with a local street trader who sold "unofficial" Arsenal merchandise,[26] Arsenal eventually sought a more comprehensive legal protection. Therefore, in 2002 they introduced a new crest featuring more modern curved lines and a simplified style, which was copyrightable.[27] The cannon once again faces east and the club's name is written in a sans-serif typeface above the cannon. Green was replaced by dark blue. The new crest was criticised by some supporters; the Arsenal Independent Supporters' Association claimed that the club had ignored much of Arsenal's history and tradition with such a radical modern design, and that fans had not been properly consulted on the issue.[28]
Until the 1960s, a badge was worn on the playing shirt only for high-profile matches such as FA Cup finals, usually in the form of a monogram of the club's initials in red on a white background.[29]
The monogram theme was developed into an Art Deco-style badge on which the letters A and C framed a football rather than the letter F, the whole set within a hexagonal border. This early example of a corporate logo, introduced as part of Herbert Chapman's rebranding of the club in the 1930s, was used not only on Cup Final shirts but as a design feature throughout Highbury Stadium, including above the main entrance and inlaid in the floors.[30] From 1967, a white cannon was regularly worn on the shirts, until replaced by the club crest, sometimes with the addition of the nickname "The Gunners", in the 1990s.[29]
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IL, US
ok, stop posting large chunks of unrelated text
it's just annoying
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Tokyo, Japan
This thread has really gone to hell hasn't it.