I'm in!

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(181 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Argh noooooo. Now I'll never be able to attend a Blip Festival ever, just as I was planning to move to Taiwan next year and hop over to Blip Oz and Blip Tokyo in 2013. :'(

#ripblip

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(7 replies, posted in Releases)

It's been in the making for a while now. Haven't released a proper EP in ages. Finally managed to knuckle down and write some dirty tracks for you. Have fun.

Just read the interview on TCTD. Damn you got me salivating!

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(36 replies, posted in Releases)

So where can I sign up for the Carl groupie club?

This is just way too good.

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(20 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Well, sadnes is releasing his EP today. So you didn't miss anything.

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(15 replies, posted in General Discussion)

10k wrote:

Ha!

Getting to the end I spot:
Abrasive,
Celsius,
Derris-Kharlan,
Myself

You can spot me and my brother enjoying it in the back... no homo.

Was such a sick gig by the way. I need to get back there asap.

Awesome line-up! Keep it going. Might be in Melbourne again next year. Woot.

I'll be keeping an eye on them. If they start selling some tunes or take some wrong steps, I'll let you guys know.

Yeah, there's this whole "zef" (via Die Antwoord) movement in South Africa. Everyone trying to be ironically funny. Btw, the South African dutch = Afrikaans.

akira^8GB wrote:
Bit Shifter wrote:

Unfortunately that's not correct. By using a license that permits derivative works, you have already granted permission, to everyone in the world, to make new things out of your art. This is why it's important to consider the different licensing options carefully.

Yeah, licenses that permit derivative work are already allowing it as long as the resulting derivative work is released with the same license and credit to the original is given. Author permission would be necessary only if the license needs to be changed (ie to commercial)

Ah yes, thanks for the clarification.

I agree. Most creative commons licenses (the most commonly used ones) are released to permit derivative works, but with permission from artist first. That's how I release my music, and I think 8bc did it as well. I shall inform Dubmood for more clarification on his works.

It has come to my sad realization that the only 8bit South Africa now gains is Olinosterfant.

They are using FantomenK and Dubmood tunes (among others) as "backing" tracks for their horrible rapping. I've contacted Dubmood, not FantomenK yet. He told me he remembers them asking for permission, but never gave them permission, 'cause they "sucked". And yes they do. However, they do give one brief mention of using the tunes:

Die ham en kaas albino haas se musiek deur FantomenK en rof soos n berg vis se musiek deur Dubmood. Legitness Tjiekie!

Translation: "The "Ham en Kaas Albino Haas" music is by FantomenK and "Rof soos 'n Berg Vis" is by Dubmood."

This is the only time I've noticed "Rof Soos 'n Berg Vis" is acknowledged as being created by Dubmood. They're playing gigs quite often now, they are however giving away their tunes for free. Which seems to have no mention of the tunes being created by other people (you can hear Subfocus and The Bloody Beetroots in other tunes as well). This isn't even sampling. Now however, check this:

Download en versprei 'rof soos n berg vis'! Dis ons eerste single wat binnekort op kampus radios gan jam reg oor S.A en ons shoot binnekort die musiek video vir die tune! Tjiekie fkn oei!

Translation: "Download and spread our new single "Rof soos 'n Berg Vis" which will shortly be playlisted on campus radios across South Africa and we're starting to shoot a music music vid for it soon."

Isn't that taking it a bit too far? Even IF they did get permission from Dubmood, I doubt he'd give the thumbs up for this.

Another guy has pointed out that Olinosterfant has been using other people's tunes and flamed them for it by saying that he worries for their future record company who's going to struggle with copyright. This probably refers to the Sub Focus & The Bloody Beetroots tunes, but they wave it down by saying "we're giving it away for free, chill out".

Now, I'm asking you guys for help. Dubmood gave me the permission to "flame" them. I don't wanna stir up shit. FantomenK has not been informed, but in one status update they say that they are working with FantomenK. They even play FantomenK "sets" at the end of their gigs. They are starting to get merch in line (shirts) and therefore will be making money soon. Firstly, legal or not? Secondly, can Dubmood and others claim to stop using the tunes, 'cause "technically" their making direct money of it yet, but even so, without permission it's still wrong right? What I'm basically asking is, what is the best course of action in a situation like this?

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Thanks for reminding us of the changes. Unfortunately Sparkyboy was already taken.

57 wrote:
Sparkyboy wrote:

Indeed, making a trip to London 10June to 28 June. Going away to Ibiza for a few days 18-25June. Thought, but rest of the time I'm in London. Would love check/play a gig, or just meet up.

well play your cards right and it might coincide with a BEEP, be good to say hi

Yeah totally! That's why I'm holding my thumbs.

57 wrote:
Sparkyboy wrote:

Oh shi- awesome! You guys better organize a gig in mid June, I'm going to be in London then!

Sparkyboy!!! you'll be over from south africa!? I remember you from when i was 'Jump! Press Start', it'd be good to catch up again

Indeed, making a trip to London 10June to 28 June. Going away to Ibiza for a few days 18-25June. Thought, but rest of the time I'm in London. Would love check/play a gig, or just meet up.