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i don't think he's necessarily "unknown", but one amazing dude who i don't see mentioned enough is plamo.

http://www.myspace.com/plamo2
http://www.ilike.com/artist/Plamo for a bunch of free songs.

this thread is showing me a bunch of awesome stuff, keep giving it up!!

i suppose right now it's my job.

as for how "regular" musicians get by, there are a lot of ways to make cash; teach, play local gigs consistently, doing copy stuff, if you know the right people you can do some writing, etc.

CHRISTMAS HITS EARLY AND THE WORLD PROVES THAT IT IS GOOD. FUCK YEAH.

well, bummer. sad

in that case, do i challenge someone else?

oddly enough, i can count on one hand the number of times i've seen any chip musicians use a game boy for playing games.
george from starscream plays pokemon, and i play zelda.

i think that's all i've seen.

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Bit Shifter wrote:

also likeluke gargles balls

wait what

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http://heylikeluke.tumblr.com
http://anamanaguchi.tumblr.com

enso's pixelstyle tumblr is fucking awesome.

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e.s.c. wrote:

sorta, though i was talking more about the fact that some musicians just dont want to be famous, some do...i tend to respect musicians who are famous more if they are the type who werent trying to be famous, but more just tried to make music their concern...like luke said, trying to get on a relatively minor label for tour support and help doing that sort of shit i dont mind..its more when people have this goal of becoming famous that it bothers me, since often then they focus on doing what it takes to achieve fame, not on just writing songs that they enjoy writing....
as far as i fight dragons, i dont know them well enough to know if they are just becoming famous or they are trying to be famous, though i am personally put off them a little by the whole "we all wear clothes that thematically match" thing as well as the way they present themselves (and the manner in which they use chip elements), which do make me think that their interest in chip music may be less than genuine and more about marketing...again, this is based mostly off the way they present themselves as a band, so i cant be sure...but if thats not the case, they may wish to pursue new ways of presenting themselves, ie not coordinating their clothing

i definitely get what you're saying, and agree that it's all about your personal goals, but it gets pretty hard to draw the line. thematic costumes themselves don't bug me (the locust, devo, etc), the thing that seems off about IFD's costume gimmick is that it feels like a weird attempt to tie their clothing into a sort of "nerdcore" image, which comes off as forced since their music doesn't really represent that scene beyond having the chip sounds. that part seems like poor branding, i suppose.

as for their interest in chipmusic, i honestly don't think their interest in chip music is much stronger than that of, say, horse the band (which is to say not very much). in both cases they're by no means ignorant of it, and know at least a little bit, even enough to learn some programming! but representing chip music isn't their goal, just representing i fight dragons. their chosen setup is clearly much more gimmicky than simply using a square wave sound on a fucking synth, but they enjoy the sounds, and have found a way to appropriate them in a way they want. on the whole, they won't have people at their shows getting mad because they're "fakebit", we're a pretty select few that know the difference. i honestly don't think it's strictly about marketing for them, they're just not trying to market solely to a chip music audience.

reading everyone's thoughts on "making it" in this thread has been pretty interesting. i agree that any fame you should earn as a musician should come naturally because of your given talent or originality, you won't ever leave your bedroom unless you have something new to offer. true, some musicians don't really aspire to be that kind of big, but everyone who feels they have an original voice wants to be heard and recognized, it's just about to what extent. when i think about my goals as a musician, my ultimate goal has never been to be in some ultimately famous globe-hopping band of millionaires, but rather to be a musician that someone could respect the same way i respect my heroes that informed and changed the way i write and play. everyone is aiming for recognition on some level, whether from their peers alone or from everyone on the globe. to stay on topic with IFD, i think they love making the music they make, and love these chip sounds enough to use them in a capacity they want, so they want recognition from everyone else who loves both those things. doesn't seem unfair to me.

sorry that this turned into a novella.

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and just so i'm clear on this: is the general consensus that if you want to be a famous musician, you're doing it for the wrong reasons?

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Battle Lava wrote:
likeluke wrote:

tour support and booking, publicity, distribution.

True, but these things can be done without a label, but I guess are easier with a label, because someone else working for the label can do all that work for you.

I guess reading that albini article made me super paranoid of labels- that they are just crazy money hungry loan sharks!

hah, i would only really consider that to be the case for a huge major label. it's not like someone like suicide squeeze or 8BP is trying to cash in on its artists. tongue

and yeah, you definitely can do all that without a label, but speaking from experience of doing it without a label, it is a truly huge amount of work. consider being a solo artist and doing your own booking, PR, and handling the shipping of all your own merch and records, then add the actual work as a musician of writing, recording, and performing. that ideally should be the whole point of a label: not to cash in, but to get the support you need on the business end so that you can keep your music your primary focus. to bring that radiohead example back, they might not be on a label, but they definitely still have numerous agents and employees who are working directly for them. once you hit a certain point, trying to handle everything yourself becomes an impossible exercise.

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Battle Lava wrote:

Anyway, blah blah blah, but why do people want to be on labels these days?  Enlighten me if you know.

tour support and booking, publicity, distribution.

i've read that albini article before, and while it definitely opened my eyes to how a lot of label interaction works, i wouldn't expect any given label deal to be an immediate gateway to big cash money. the association to a good label, however, can mean everything in getting your name out to new fans.
as for the radiohead example, they are capable of succeeding without a label, but that's only after they'd had major label support for fourteen years or so before releasing in rainbows. i'm hard pressed to think of an artist who's achieved that kind of status with no label connection of any kind.


also, as was stated by pete in the 8bc thread regarding IFD, there is literally nothing they've achieved that anyone on this forum couldn't if you worked hard enough. we can all put in the effort to make it to their level if we want, it's just about your work ethic. seriously, once one of us makes it big, they alone are not responsible for how the chip scene is represented - we all are.

super glad that people enjoyed it, i had so much fun making this song/video!

okay, i'm gonna have to put it on mister little-scale. i challenge you to make a minimal techno canon, with at least two buildup sections that will last 16 measures each. think in this vein: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE82i_l3WMU or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUkjnRlQF8o

as for gear, it should be only nes, with any and all expansion chips allowed. external effects and production are good, and will probably be necessary, but strictly nes!
are you in?

the last two hours was waiting for this video to upload, but it's done!

first of all, here's the track:
http://chipmusic.org/likeluke/music/run … se-the-sun

and second of all, here's how you dance to it:

i'll have a challenge up later today!

Sievert wrote:

Luke you'll be missed : (

We'll have to hang out twice as hard (meaning drink twice as much) in Austin!

austin is going to be very good for fun, and very bad for our bodies. can't wait, y'all!

track's been done since this afternoon. gonna film a short video and have it all up tonight.

DaPantz wrote:

Maaaan, FUCK the West Coast! Jeff Excell & Jenn de la Vega, I'm lookin' at you!

AND RICARDO I'M LOOKIN' AT YOU MUTHAFUCKA 213 WILL REPRESENT ALL DAY EVERY DAY BORN AND RAISED CAUSE WE SMOKE YOU CLOWNS LIKE YOU WAS THE FINEST 'DRO 3RD AND NORMANDIE KEEP IT REAL LA TALK WUTSUUUUUUUUUP

but really, i'm just upset that i won't be at this pulsewave. mega bummer. heart u nyc.