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(49 replies, posted in Other Hardware)

pselodux wrote:
unexpectedbowtie wrote:

I wouldn't be rushing to buy a Digitone right at release for that reason - that's all I'm saying.

Too late, I just ordered one this morning tongue

edit: the bugs so far seem to mostly stem from using it with other gear. I can wait for those to be fixed, as I'm primarily getting it to use standalone (but will eventually start using it with my nord lead for additional weirdness).

My issues are actually more with the lack of file management standalone, but you're right - a lot of the problems were with the MIDI stuff initially.

Anyway... I'm really curious to hear how you like the Digitone! Please do post some samples and stuff smile

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(49 replies, posted in Other Hardware)

Jalex wrote:

Ok! I hope your problems will be solved. I have three devices from the elektron (mnm ar and a4) and they completely prefect me. just I've seen many times how some users expect from devices much more than they can.

Aye. If you want to see some real exaggeration, check out the Elektronauts forum (!).

Some images...

No images of the drum machine setup sadly, but here it is packed into a flight case to show the amount of cables...

I've experimented with a few different things...

* Two DMGs, a mixer, and having them both beat-synched so I could flawlessly transition across.
* Two DMGs... both with separate Arduinoboys, going into a MIDI Merge, which then spat out MIDI information to a Vermona Kick module for bigger drum sounds. All of the above going into a mixer.
* As above, but with an added synth for the bass lines.

I've also used a bunch of different effects pedals like the Montreal Assembly Count to Five, some EQ pedals, and a Kaoss pad.

The more I've played though, the more I've slimmed down my setup. It's a pain in the arse to carry about more gear; it takes a much longer time to set up the mash of cables in between sets, and there's far more that can (and does!) go wrong. i.e. MIDI data not sending properly... effects pedals power dying, etc. Now I just tend to use two DMGs, an iRig mixer, and a Kaoss pad... though even that might get the boot for some gigs.

Edit: Specifically on the drums point. I found it tough to mix the Kick in with my DMGs onstage, as it was harder to monitor just how loud everything was. It also caused some issues with my board recording... It would probably be a lot easier with a bigger mixer than the iRig, but that would mean yet more stuff to carry, so I haven't bothered.

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(49 replies, posted in Other Hardware)

Jalex wrote:

I think you're exaggerating the problem

Not really. I'm simply explaining the experience that I've had. You might not like it, but that's how it is.

I bought an expensive bit of gear which had a lot of bugs and half finished features that have a real impact on how useful it is. (Note: Overbridge has just been delayed, again, with no release date in sight (https://www.elektronauts.com/news/405), and still no way to save or backup songs off of the device). As a result of that, I personally would hold off on buying any new Elektron products at release. I've already said that I love the Digitakt and am keeping a hold of it because I know (hope) that eventually the issues will be resolved. It's really not that controversial.

Edit: Either way, this thread is about the Digitone, not the Digitakt. I've shared my experience with the Digitakt because I wish somebody had told me about these problems with Elektron before I bought one. If someone is interested in the Digitone then I think they deserve to know so they can make up their own minds whether it's worth waiting or not. That's been done, so let's not go back over the same ground repeatedly, and instead carry on discussing the Digitone. smile I'm not sold on it feature or sound wise yet, so curious to see what other folks think.

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(49 replies, posted in Other Hardware)

pselodux wrote:
herr_prof wrote:

I’ve heard that about every product going back to the monomachine, so I’m not surprised.

yeah apparently they were all quite buggy in the beginning, especially the OT. They eventually got updated to become pretty solid, reliable machines though, so I still trust Elektron to get it right.

I'm sure they will get it right 'in the end', and I like the Digitakt enough to hang on to it until then. I just don't really want to have to wait 12 months for my £700 bit of gear to be fully functional, as a general rule. I wouldn't be rushing to buy a Digitone right at release for that reason - that's all I'm saying.

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(49 replies, posted in Other Hardware)

Jalex wrote:

Its true! but still elektron is much better. they at least do not give up their products after 2 years.

They might not need to if they paid enough attention in the first place tongue

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(49 replies, posted in Other Hardware)

No drama, just a fair warning for anyone considering the Digitone. smile

herr_prof wrote:

What do you mean? The Digitakt seems awesome.

I should say up front that in general I really love the Digitakt. It's pretty intuitive, and it really helps inspire the writing of new music.

That said... it came out in May last year. I got mine in about October time, and despite that, there are a pile of bugs and half finished features. We're not talking just the regular teething issues you get with other hardware either, but some really basic stuff that still remains unfixed. Some examples:

* No way to back up songs.
* No way to see the amount of space left in the internal hard drive, and no notification when you have actually run out of space.
* No indication of which samples on the hard drive have been used in a project, and which ones can safely be removed.
* When copying MIDI patterns, the CC and channel mappings aren't copied over, which means you need to re-configure them every. single. time.
* A litany of problems with MIDI that resulted in frequent crashing.
* Despite all of the marketing and manual stating that the Digitakt was 'Overbridge ready', it still hasn't been released. In other words, the software to allow you to record each track separately isn't available.

Plus a whole bunch of other problems. Elektron have been terrible at communicating, and delayed OS updates etc... To be honest, it's just not good enough for a premium product. What was especially galling was to see Elektron carrying on to release new products and firmware for other devices, whilst the Digitakt was left half finished, and with no decent answers being given. They were actively snarky to me and other users who submitted support tickets, which has left a bad taste in my mouth as well.

(p.s. the 1.05 OS had issues, and 1.06 is now out. It still doesn't address many of the major problems that I have.)

I was really pleased when I first got the Digitakt, but the way Elektron have handled everything has been terrible, and the functionality issues have meant that it's become less and less effective to use. (e.g. I have no storage space left, but I can't see which samples are redundant... I can't multi-track record them because there's no Overbridge yet, and I can't backup or save any of them to come back to later).

Because of the above I personally won't be rushing out to buy any new Elektron products. Maybe a couple of years after release, but as it stands, I don't trust them any more. Sadly. The Digitone looks cool, but I would be careful before shelling out £700 given how they've treated the Digitakt. Caveat emptor smile

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(49 replies, posted in Other Hardware)

I wasn't impressed with how they've dealt with the Digitakt, so I'll be avoiding Elektron for a while.

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(14 replies, posted in Trading Post)

Sadly, many people have had issues with DJ Transformer in the past. Have a search on here for more info:

https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/1099 … ers-store/ for example.

https://unexpectedbowtie.com/2018/01/07 … uary-2017/

Photaes!

This is happening tomorrow!

Rough set times:

8 - 8.30 - Myths and Monsters
8.45 - 9.15 - Joe Bleeps
9.30 - 10 - Galaxy Wolf
10.15 - 10.45 - unexpected bowtie
11 - 11.30 - King Keytan

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(29 replies, posted in Trading Post)

darenager +1 smile

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(4 replies, posted in Trading Post)

darenager wrote:

DM'd cool

replied!

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(6 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

Hello!

I've been using MIDIOUT on LSDJ for a while, and it's great. I've just been using it to send notes though, and want to start using program changes/CC values. I'm a bit confused by the documentation though:

Xxx - Sends a MIDI CC - By default in Arduinoboy the high nibble selects a CC#, and the low nibble sends a value 0-F to 0-127. This can be changed to allow just 1 midi CC with a range of 00-6F, or 7 CCs with scaled or unscaled values.

How does this work? Say I want to send a value of 80 on CC value 27 - how would I easily calculate the correct value to use in LSDJ?

Yxx - Sends a program/patch/preset change.

This description is a bit bare. Any ideas on how this is implemented?

Thanks for the help!

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(4 replies, posted in Trading Post)

Selling my Nanoloop Mono cart:

Got it last year, and only used it a handful of times - so as new.

£65 plus tracked postage to the UK/EU
£70 plus tracked postage to the rest of the world.