Ok, you're not listening to what i'm saying, but that's cool, I don't really care.

EDIT: ok, I do care. But only because I really can't stand your site. Yes, full paged websites can be great, when it's warranted that they take up that whole space. I don't know what resolution you're viewing your website at, but when it's viewed taking up the full width of a 1440x900 screen, it looks silly as hell. there's no reason that the body section should be taking up 1000px. if you trimmed the body down to about 600px, and then had the columns on either side of that it would be so much nice to look at. It would give you breathing room. Or you could keep it full page, but figure out a nicer way to break up the space. NEGATIVE SPACE IS NOT A BAD THING. For example, chipmusic.org takes up the full width of the browser, but it still give you plenty of room to breath, by having good spacing, and a minimal interface.

Another thing your top banner doesn't quite go out to the edges of the page, but isn't restricted far enough to make any sense. Fix it. and also, your ads which you love oh so much on the left side of the page are a different width from your navigation bar, it looks sloppy as hell. And the thing is, you don't need ads. Yes, it's your website, but if you want anyone to use your website you need to forget that, and just make it useable and friendly. You can't say "fuck everyone else, it's my site" if you're the one who wants visitors. Adblock add-ons aren't an excuse to throw ads everywhere. Your design should be made as it's intended to be viewed.

MURCAH

Oskar Hanberg wrote:

Thank you for the constructive criticism finally. I must correct you on one thing though. The code is far from old and outdated. It validated against XHTML1.1 and CSS2, the most recent Actual W3C standards. Sure, HTML5 and CSS3 are on the way and such, but they are not done. And as a webdesigner I take pride in using proper code. I'm well aware that I could probably slab something together in Drupal in 5 minutes that is going to look more "modern" or whatever, but that would throw my SEO-work away and would probably make google webmaster tools puke all over the place.
Regarding adblock on Firefox I already stated that there are probably alternatives for other browsers as well. If you are too lazy to download the proper addon for your browser of choice, that is not my fault.

Regarding the content area: would it help if I had some sort of index at the top, like I have on my album pages? That would guide people to the content they are interested in a bit quicker.

Basically just agreeing with Linde here. But, yes your code works, and in that way it's proper, but by modern web design and coding standards it's not up to par. Admittedly, I'm not a professional web designer, but I have a bit of experience with code, and plenty of experience with design. While the backend might not be entirely outdated, from the front end that's what it looks like; and there are very, very few people who are going to look at the code of your site to make sure it's actually using some modern coding techniques.

The biggest problem with your website has nothing to do with content, or even how it's coded. If I had been visiting your site for anything other than critiquing, I would have left immediately. There is no way I would pain myself to use that webpage, except as a favor to another person. Were I looking for more information, even about you as an artist, I would rather just google for something that looked like it had been updated more recently than 1993. Seriously, this could even be helped just by making it not take up the full browser width. Give it some breathing room, look up anything, and I meant absolutely anything at all about web design (try smashing mag) and it will give you some clues about layout and composition of a website. I'm not going to go into this any more because i'll just end up repeating myself. But really. Your website being hideous isn't just an issue of taste, it will drive away users.

tl;dr moar moar moar moar haet haet haet haet

herr_prof wrote:

No one has ever missed out on open mike as fair as i know. Even homophobes!

How often is Mike open? That's a pretty impressive record, considering how busy he must be.

chipocrite wrote:

Have fun, jerks. Anybody need anything from Miami?

Jerk. Also yeah, bring back some old people, they have those there, right?

I'm shocked and appalled at how few lmgtfy.com links there are in this thread.

but also a little proud.





carry on.

tempsoundsolutions wrote:

im comin up for this! say whats up if you see me.

on right now and sounding good!
edit: whooops, bucky here

Ok, I hate you for making this thread FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS

One, you're website isn't even remotely 8-bit, it just looks like any number of pieces of junk from geocities.

Two, the layout is absolutely primitive, not only is it hideously painful to use, it's just outdated and ugly. That's not being retro, that's being lazy.

That's really it, but if you want me to be ~*constructive*~ allow me to expand.

If you want to do something really 8-bit or resembling an NES or even something like the C64, you're going to need to work at it, not just make it bare. The thing is, internet primitive, and serious primitive hardware are entirely different things. What you have now, is essentially just primitive code. If you want it to have that 8-bit look take a page from the new Blip Fest website. It doesn't look like it's being run on an old system but it has the aesthetic, or that kind of thing, which is really the best you're going to be able to do while still viewing the website on modern hardware.

If you want it to really feel like an old computer/game system, you're going to need to put some real work into it and make something that gives that kind of feel not only in the way it looks but in the way you use it. For example, the website http://chiptune.com/ basically has a recreation of the amiga workbench on that functions as the website. Your layout on the other hand, is a few columns, one for navigation and ads, one for page content, and another one for ads. The biggest issue is really your content area, it's not well defined and is made up entirely of awkwardly long paragraphs. Having a more well defined text area would just be nicer to read. Also the graphics on your site don't really seem to have much significance, the background is some weird diagonal tiled brick thing, which looks as though it was intended to be pixelated, but... it's diagonal, and then the banner has those music notes which, while not anti-aliased, still aren't the big blockey pixel style type things that would evoke and 8-bit look and feel. The same goes for the background of the banner, the sizes are weird, and you might want to look into the palette of your site, if you want it to look more 8-bit, try using an NES color palette.

Now, you said you liked the way it looks outdated. If you want to go for the ye olde internette look, yes your site wins, just throw in a few animated gifs of spinning musical notes and have one of those annoying auto-playing midi embeds. but really you're neither here nor there. You need to decide whether you want to look 8-bit, or whether you want to look old internet, you can't do both without just looking inept, so your best bet is to pick one and go with it. Personally I would say, oh just fuck it, make a modern website, it's a modern technology, don't try to make it something that it isn't, but you won't listen to that so i'd say go with 8bit, because then you might at least have some hope of making it useable. Just use some proper CSS please. It helps.

Also one more thing, about the ads, you can't really honestly expect anyone who doesn't want to look at stupid ads for random bullshit to use firefox adblocker. really it's almost criminal to expect people to use firefox. Chances are you're not really gonna make too much money off of that, and if you want anyone to take your site seriously at all having ads is not going to help. if you feel you positively must at least just go with some simple google text ads, because seriously, I got an ad for sexy russian chicks or something, that doesn't make me think your website is really a great palce to hang around.

tl;dr hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate

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Finally listening to this now, but that album art is awesome, really skillful.

i hate you so much for making this thread.

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Chip music isn't even really a medium or a genre, it's kind of an aesthetic, just about the feel of some of the sounds used. It's almost pointless to categorize anything as chip music. There are tons of chip music artist who make music in a range of genres from the psych-rock style of Cheap Dinocaurs, to the electro house of Knife City, to the speedcore style of IAYD, and the gabber/amigacore of stagediver, and still there's the IDM stuff, and the powerpop stuff, and the jazzy stuff, and the metal stuff, and whatever. Trying to ask what kind of genre chipmusic is is totally ridiculous. It would be like saying, "ok, so what genre is a four piece band?" you can't do it.

as for good artists, start on 8bitpeoples and Pause, then just find the big list of netlabels and find more things.

AdamGetsAwesome wrote:
pixls wrote:

wtf is with awesome shows happening on thursdays!?

Like you have classes on Friday...

i don't, but i have classes thursday until 9 sad

wtf is with awesome shows happening on thursdays!?

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