egr wrote:There are emulators for EVERYTHING and they can output files for hardware. Also, and I'm guilty of this too, saying "just samples" ignores a huge chunk of chiptune history... hell, "chiptune" as a word originally referred to using small single-cycle SAMPLES. Also, Fast Tracker II ... Impulse Tracker ... LGPT ... knowwutimeanvern?
If new peeps were even more strongly pushed towards trying emulators and dos trackers before getting any hardware at all then we would probably see a much more interesting variety of tunes being made rather than such a gameboy-centric situation.
Disclaimer: Thinking that everybody using gb's is boring assumes that the compositions would be better on other hardware and obviously that's not true.
I'm not trying to sound like I don't know anything, or that I'm ignoring all of those trackers from back then. I use some trackers occasionally, not fastracker II, but I've got milky and nitrotracker on my DS, I use them quite often, but anything I make on them is then transferred into famitracker.
I see what you mean here, there are a lot of tracks made on LSDJ, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Then again (as you said) even if artists did use other means of making music, if there song writing skills suck and are unoriginal, than all they are are sucky and unoriginal in a different format. As a cheep-skate, I can tell you that after more than 2 years of having interest in this kinda stuff, I only bought a flashcart and LSDJ on Wednesday. I've been using famitracker, I love it and I wish more people would use it. I would like to point out that I don't think there's anything wrong with using any kind of means of making music, whether it's on a C64, gamboy or on a tracker and that as long as your songs are good then the format doesn't matter either.
Back to what I said earlier about how "if it doesn't run on hardware then it isn't chiptune" this is after all only an opinion. I'm not going to get angry or complain at people if they use samples from LSDJ in another program, that's just fucking dumb.
e.s.c. wrote:also, referring to things as fakebit was a joke in the first place, not a serious distinction anyone was making
What. No way. Shit, I guess I'll shut up for a bit and lurk/learn more then.