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You are very talented Mr. Shallow.

LOL I mean you are very deep Mr. Shallow.

Actually, only once, and I was being sarcastic:

I didn't think you would take it seriously, but worse, you are blaming me for the way everyone else is treating you. You are making me look like a jerk when I am one of the few people still trying to give you advice.

I never once commented on the quality of your songs. I did listen to them, all of them, after you uploaded them to Soundcloud. I wasn't crazy about any of them and didn't have anything to say. If I had to make a comment, I would say that they show potential and are better than most "my first LSDJ" songs but I don't think any of the songs are good enough to really get people excited, sell albums or attract people to a live show... that's the way I examine my own music* and I think you should do the same.

* Let me just qualify the above by saying that I don't consider any of my music to be truly great either.

See above man. I know I called Piksel a troll early on but I'm really trying to be helpful! Anyway I'm out of this thread, I never wanted to get on your shit list or anyone else's.

Yes well here's the thing. You haven't been making hip hop for 3 years. You've been making beats for 3 years. And while it has been very good practice, beats are a dime-a-dozen. I'm a firm believer that you won't ever get noticed just for making beats. Still, you answered your own question; no one knows your name because you haven't made anything special in the past 3 years and you haven't shared anything or marketed yourself in that time.

So now you want to do chipmusic because you feel like it will get you more exposure. Well, ha ha. That's silly. I won't argue with your choice though. What I will tell you is this:

In order to really make it as an artist, and I mean, not everyone knows you because you troll some online message board, but, everyone knows you because they really like your music, you need to have a handful of really amazing tracks, rather than hundreds of mediocre ones. There are lots of mediocre songs out there. Thousands. Tens of thousands. Can you name any off the top of your head? Neither can I. So sure, you can make a bunch of crappy songs and share them on 8bc or chipmusic.org, but you will probably just be wasting your time. What you need to do is make a handful (3 or 4, really) that are AMAZING. And if it takes you a whole year to make those 3 or 4 songs, well, it will be much more rewarding than making 400 mediocre songs in that same amount of time. And when it comes to chip music, or any type of electronic music, you have your work cut out for you... it has to be interesting, creative, daring, and unique. Think about that. And good luck to you. There are a lot of people in the same boat. Just remember that good music markets itself. Period.

Wow, I didn't think you guys would all latch onto that one word. I know none of us are really in competition with each other, but to someone who is obviously completely incapable of understanding what chipmusic.org is for, I needed to use some strong language. Hence, my diction.

Yes but you don't market yourself on chipmusic.org, because that would be marketing yourself to other MUSICIANS and we are not your customers, we are your _competitors_. This is for networking and making friends, not marketing. Marketing is what you do on Facebook, Myspace, etc.

Use drop.io or put the songs on Soundcloud. I'm not waiting 60 seconds for a download button and dealing with pop-up ads.

I know I sound like an asshole when I tell people this, but seriously I hate (with a passion) when someone asks me to download something from a website that makes it very difficult to download stuff for free when there are lots of much better, easier to use alternatives.