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(89 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

danimal cannon wrote:
an0va wrote:

yeah honestly who wants to hear a 21 measure phrase till it repeats? Unless you're meshuggah or something

The irony is that 90% of Meshuggahs stuff is in 4/4.

i havent seen any of their stuff written out, but that makes a lot of sense given how polymetric their music is. the last thing you would want is arbitrary bar lines messing things up. you would need a steady pulse to "feel".

i think the most egregious time signature abuser hands down is Tool. I love the results they get, but the notation is absolutely hilarious

562

(89 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

an0va wrote:
BR1GHT PR1MATE wrote:

* TONS of pop music is written in odd or compound meter, from beatles to soundgarden, zepplin, red hot chili peppers, sting, peter gabriel. so its not just guys with pointed ibanez guitars counting in their head while palm-muting.

Yes! Thank you! I still think you can have super interesting rhythms within just straight 4/4 and no 'omg polyrhythms' needed. Just keep the syncopation interesting and don't ignore the pulse.

I agree! but, I'm not sure from your wording whether the comment about syncopation in 4/4 was a separate thought, or you assumed that I meant that these pop music examples were using that method in lieu of straight up using a balls out odd meter. because all these pop examples are notated in 11/8, 7/8, 5/8, 7/4, and some even weirder!

I just want to give writing props where they are due wink

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564

(89 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

and those are some random opinions and facts from me at 3:20am

565

(89 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

also, id say if anyone wants a master class in musical / badass uses for odd meters, Mussorgsky's "Pictures at an Exhibition" is it.

566

(89 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

random thoughts at 3am:

* back in bach's day, for some reason "Bb" was called "H", so you could, if you wanted to, only listen to songs in the key of H.

* TONS of pop music is written in odd or compound meter, from beatles to soundgarden, zepplin, red hot chili peppers, sting, peter gabriel. so its not just guys with pointed ibanez guitars counting in their head while palm-muting.

* odd meters in western music came from hungarian / bulgarian folk dances and were popularized by brahms

567

(89 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

this is exactly the stuff i was talking about... le sigh

BR1GHT PR1MATE wrote:

i think people love talking about time signatures because they think it's like some arcane classical music science or something

568

(89 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

There I'm talking about polymetric superimposition: "An X-tuplet over Y beats of a certain duration". You can do this with anything. 5-over-4 is quite common, even 5-over-3, 7-over-4, etc.

it seems like you're referring to odd meters (which you would be correct about)? Perhaps you quoted the wrong part of my text?


edit: forgot a "t" apparently

569

(89 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

i think people love talking about time signatures because they think it's like some arcane classical music science or something, a la fugue form or invertible counterpoint. it becomes so much less zazzy when you realize that it's basically just groupings of 2 or 3 pulses grouped together to suit an arbitrary bar line, for the sake of sight-reading or to match a form for melodic purposes. not that I don't love me some odd meter (clearly its a fundemental part of music), its just that it seems to be such a constant topic of conversation!

polymeter is similar in that it's all granulated subdivisions. 3:2 and 4:3 sound cool, 5:4 occasionally finds a use, but beyond that it gets into either iannis xenakis / conlon nancarrow territory, where its "zomg weird mechanical polymeter for the sake of polymeter" or if it's going to be performed by a human, it might as well just be written in a legible (if approximate) form using connected dotted eights/sixteenths whatever.

sorry for snob

570

(91 replies, posted in General Discussion)

I had friend from Colombia, where every once in a while members of his family would be kidnapped and ransomed by guerillas. Kinda changed my opinion of the local hoods.

I lived in arguably the worst place in Boston, the Bromley-Heath housing projects, a place where suburbanites wake up in cold sweats from nightmares about, and had nothing but positive experiences really. Violence was generally just gang on gang, and the local community was very self-policing and everybody generally looked out for each other. Example: I woke up one morning to the sound of my neighbors (who I had never met) literally fighting off a tow truck operator from towing my car, saying "you're not getting any cars from this neighborhood you vultures". LOVE IT.

I an odd juxtaposition, one week after moving into my current upper-middle class Irish and italian "good neighborhood", my car was broken into and vandalized likely because of my pro-atheism bumper-sticker (which was ripped off and torn). Similarly, my neighbours constantly have somewhat violent fights and the paddy waggon is perpetually parked near the local pubs due to constant drunken brawling. Sure, self-selection bias on my part, but... weird huh?

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I feel like I've learned so much about people's love for their hair.

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I fucking love this thread hahahaha

Vex wrote:
BR1GHT PR1MATE wrote:

i think you can do better than that actually...

Lawlzing at the perfect hair for ever reference. Didnt know anyone remembered this show.


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