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The thing is, neither of us are really in a position to mandate what the site is or isn't -- we can only conduct ourselves in a way that we want others to follow. I mean, if the current state is where the site is headed, I can't really do much about it but try to be helpful and post where I can. Ultimately the site turns into whatever you want it to be through your interactions on it...I would just rather it be helpful; I can go to 4chan for trolling.

And as far as promoting chipmusic goes: as immature as it may be, I still respect *whatever* it is enough to try and speak well of it when I can. It's not a "job" to me, it's just what I should do...I don't need to wait for a netlabel or whatever to do it for me.

definitely editing my profile now

wait what? I definitely didn't make accounts to do that. you're probably confusing me with that spaceman fantastiques guy. I totally remember when that happened and I was really bummed that his name started with the same first word as mine did because I totally knew I was going to get confused with him

I didn't even start posting any of my stuff on 8bc until I had like 2 full-lengths out, and even then I only posted covers, if that's any indication of how seriously I took posting there

here's something, though:

I don't really see why everyone is so quick to jump to a defense of this aesthetic. It's an AESTHETIC, meaning pretty damn subjective, and if some guy wants to think that TreyFrey is amateurish, so be it. It's not doing anyone any favors (ESPECIALLY the artist), and honestly, to me, quick defenses of a culture or aesthetic occur because the people defending it are trying to hide the fact that the aesthetic itself isn't all that compelling. By putting yourself in the way of a critic, you're diverting the critique and ultimately turning people off of the "community" (whatever that means now).

And really, when did it get to the point where it was not enough to simply enjoy someone's music? Now we have to be blind, staunch defenders to the death of the music we like because...well I'm not exactly sure why. Here's a tip for anyone getting riled up over this sort of thing: there are way more important things to worry about in your life than YOUR OWN music taste, much less some random guy's. This thread didn't ever need to leave the first page, and it getting to 12 pages is kind of the reason I don't post here that much anymore.

yeah...to be honest, unless it was a festival or something like that, I wouldn't even want to stay around for a ten-artist show, just because that's really tiring as a listener. it's fine if you have the time and resources to organize that, but even a really well-run show is going to go for a really long time. the way I envision that kind of thing is 2 stages with staggered performance times so people can catch at least a little of every artist, as well as a bar and food to keep people there while listening. obviously that's not feasible at all, but I'm speaking as an attendee, and that is pretty much what it would take for me to stay there if I didn't know any of the performers personally. so yeah, I'd recommend scaling down as well.

BUT. you have the advantage of people being really hungry for this kind of show! a lot of us seem willing to play, at least

definitely! let's try and plan one and stuff! unfortunately, I don't know very many venues up there so that's out of my control but I'd love to play up there because it's been SO LOOOOOONG

and hanging out is definitely a will do! I'll get in touch with you when I'm up there!

I'll be up in norcal from August 3rd-August 10th if it happens around then! definitely willing to play a set! but the Sac-town is pretty far away from where I'm staying so this needs to be like CONFIRMED CONFIRMED if I am to play

KP3 DELAY TENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

seriously the last two full lengths I've released are odes to that effect. it makes everything sound muddy as shit but it's a GOOD muddy as shit

(it really isn't though I need to work on EQing better )

also, delay 9 is fun for transitions between massively different bpms and so is delay 7 I think...there's an LFO that sounds AMAZING if it's synced right; you can check it out on my song Columbia on my latest release on my bandcamp if you want! everything else is way too WHOOSH-y for me.