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What a smart guy.

zabutom

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(109 replies, posted in General Discussion)

jangler wrote:

while i predominantly agree with arlen i would also like to throw out some examples of microtonal music i love

brad smith / rainwarrior - in this new image - 5TET - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8XiIRLBqic
syzygys - a bao a qu - incl. 43-tone organ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7i6Jsed-PA

it might be important to recognize that the aim of microtonality is sometimes to approximate the exact pitch relationships of different intervals and not to be wacky

Here's a weird indie pop band using microtonal instruments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9MjtfEQl_c

Also puredata (or max/MSP, they're similar) might be worth looking into for microtonal sorts of stuff. Could definitely pull off chip stuff using the basic waveforms and sampling for percussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4t5B6nPQGg

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The future is debatable, but I don't see microtonal music as the future. I definitely don't see Western audiences ever getting into it. It'll remain an extreme niche like harsh noise and other areas of music that are far beyond what mass audiences enjoy.

Sure it's neat, but it's very hard to digest and it's tough for your average joe to get out of the western tone structure headspace. Gettin off track here, though.

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JaffaCakeMexica wrote:

I hope chipmusic can one day do what this keyboard can...its microtonal stuff, maybe you'd be interested. Pretty much impossible in any tracker software I know of.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=APtJsaPxNgo

Almost impossible to write sheet music for as well.

Neither is impossible. You can change the tuning increments of lots of trackers. Pretty sure someone has done microtonal stuff with LSDJ before by using a custom ROM or something (little-scale, maybe? this was a while ago)

As for the sheet music thing I've heard of one person using "colors" for the different tiny pitch increments for microtonal pieces. i.e. Cblue, Cgreen, etc. Pretty interesting, but far out there stuff.

You can definitely do microtonal stuff in trackers though.

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Maybe I should have gone to school to become a jazz doctor.

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sad I really hope your back situation improves someday, Kevin. I'm getting progressively shaky hands from my mother's side of the family, but I can't imagine spine arthritis.

These days I'm finishing up my degree. Graduate the first of next month. Hopefully have a job lined up as an office clerk sort of position where I interned last summer. Crazy dysfunctional manufacturing plant in a rough part of Detroit, but it pays.

Other than that I've bounced from failed band to failed band the last few years never really making any progress. Didn't really help that my ex sometimes made it hard for me to practice and she wasn't very supportive, but I'm with someone very supportive now and I'm feeling more inspired than ever to get some stuff done.

Now I've just got to get these last exams out of the way so I can stop studying and start recording.

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Renoise is great. I record more in Renoise than I do in Reaper lol. Try out the demo, it gives you everything except exporting to .wav (Honestly, you can get around this if you really want to, but I suggest supporting the dev team. They're a great group).

I used the demo of Renoise from about 2007 to 2011 I think, then I bought a license. Worth every penny. I love the way their license system works compared to other DAWs (I respect Reaper's pricing model, too. Very fair). You buy a license and you're good from the current version up to the next full version. So right now you'd buy at version 3.1.x and be good until 4.1.x and that takes a long, long time. I bought at 2.9 I think and it's been nearly 5 years now. Even in that time there have been plenty of changes and updates, but they don't go up the version numbers too fast unless there's a big, big change in features.

Peer - Dances EP. The whole thing.

Pajjama - Starch

Painted In - You Through Me

The Depreciation Guild - A Room, A Canvas

goto80 - ajvar relish

Edzes - Stop The Watch!

Zabutom - Lost behind a chimney

pod_dob - divine powers.nsf

Fear of Dark - Last Dinosaur

KeyG - 8.xm

4mat - Million Miles Away

that's all i've got off the top of my head.

RatShack wrote:

I was thinking of doing a cassette release recently.

Geez, I thought blank cassettes would be cheaper.  Might need to buy some guy's tape collection to reuse.

For blank cassettes I'd check places like salvation army and thrift stores. Sometimes you can find a few packs of unopened tapes.

As for a release, I'd try to get as many of the same blank tape as you can just for consistency. Buying someone's collection would probably not be cheaper. Honestly if you want to put out a cassette release I'd talk to some cassette labels out there. There are plenty and chances are there might be one near you. Most of those guys are pretty cool and will answer questions better than I can.

I've been waiting for a cheap 4 track to pop up around me that isn't a pile of junk just to add some flavor to my stuff. I'm not really stoked about spending $200 on a busted tape machine, but for some reason a lot of people online think that's what their junk is worth unfortunately.

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Necro-bump!

Know anyone who wants to sell their tape? This has been my biggest purchasing pass-up for a long time now and I'm seeking to remedy it.

GenSek wrote:

Sorry for the necro-bump, but I'm thinkin' of startin' to record my noises on cassette and I need some advices, so:

What do I need in order to produce my cassette from start to finish?

I mean, I'm just searching for a 4-track recorder (which one do you choose?), then I will need a tape deck in order to create my "master" cassette and then duplicate it, etc

So, are there any cassette nerds here?
I want to know your production techniques and then start my own cassette label! (maybe) smile

The recorder kind of depends on what you're planning to do. I'm going to assume you're using LSDJ. Are you recording each separate channel into its own channel on the recorder's mixer and then mixing the levels/EQing on there? Or are you just pluggin the 'boy in and playing your whole song into just one channel?

If it's the first, look for something with enough channels for what you're going for. If it's the latter it'll be cheaper since there are plenty of cheap 2 channel cassette recorders out there. More channels = more sought after and more expensive typically. In terms of brands and what to look for I'd say the hierarchy goes something like Teac > Tascam > Yamaha > Fostex. Teac and Tascam being the best, Yamaha being pretty good, Fostex being ok at best.


Uh for the label business that's a bit different. How DIY are you? You can buy a cassette duplicator, but they're usually like $300-$400 I think? There might be some cheaper ones out there and its possible to find a deal on craigslist, but i don't know.

Your other option for doing a release would be to have a third party dupe the master to cassettes for you. This is what my friend who runs a record label does. I forget what company they use for tape releases exactly. Cost probably varies for this.

Hopefully this clears some stuff up for you? I like tapes.

If you're so against advertising why are you doing press releases and gig promos? Those are forms of advertisement lmao.

Chip stuff in milkytracker sounds a lot better if you disable interpolation most of the time. I think both are great programs, but they're very different. Go with Famitracker if you want to do NES stuff, go with MilkyTracker if you like old demoscene-ish chip stuff.

My favorite silly moment was that one time everyone on 8bc messed with some indie band thinking they looked too pale in their music video. I forget what the song was called now. Something about a person named Carol.

My favorite serious moment was probably seeing this place start up in the wake of 8bc.

Every now and then I'll put some Pajjama or Peer stuff on but it's not too often anymore. I still enjoy it though and I still listen to game soundtracks here and there. I'm always looking for stuff that stands out from the crowd.