goto80 wrote:

A clicky waveform can be emulated easily. It could also be made more clicky, which would then make it even more fun, if that's what you like. If you'd identify the "unique" characteristics of e.g the SID and then intensify them in an emulator, would that make it more unique? More chip? Is it more authentic than using external effects? More purist than bending the machine?

That seems more interesting, compared to building all these additional hardware to be able to transgress the original hardware platform. If you want to make a hawt C64 coder pr0n demo today, I'm not even sure it's possible to use the original platform anymore. You have to use emulators and special tools. And then play it on a C64. Yeai/wow/etc.

Hm. I think I'll stop there.

But you wouldn't have thought to create clicky wavetables if you hadn't started with the hardware. It's totally undesirable when you first hear it. But eventually you learn to manipulate it to make something totally different than what you'd have made with clean waveforms.

Yeah, we could just start emulating all of it. Maybe there aren't anymore limits to push with the hardware. Then again, emulation doesn't really sound the same. It's hard to get a "natural" sound out of an emulator. The old hardware wasn't perfect -- it was noisy and error prone. It might sound silly but I do perfer the sound of a dmg, as opposed to any emulation I've heard. Goattracker is a pretty good emulation for c64 though.

Also, yes it's nice to experiment with new software. But then, after you have removed the constraints which shaped the software, you really have to think about what "chipmusic" means. When does it stop being chipmusic? I don't know if we even agree on what that term means.

Well, it depends on the platform. You wouldn't create a clicky wavetable on a modern PC, like you would on a gameboy. It's fun to work with unique hardware.

BeatScribe wrote:

I think a realistic goal (without charging a monthly fee) would be a site that has embedded soundcloud/bandcamp players for things you select or like and it puts them all on a list together.

That's a pretty good idea. To focus on chip music, hosted around the web, and create a social context for discovering and talking about music. Soundcloud is a good option.

TDK wrote:

LOL - well I did release in December, and got one reply. Posted a track for some constructive critisism, nothing at all. So different to the good ol' days in the early 90's.

Maybe that's because the group of enthusiasts (henceforth referred to as 'the scene') was so small back then. So people were more supportive. There are so many EPs, its hard to listen to every one. Thats I think why the natives crack down, and say that you need to do more self-edititing.  Just my 2cents. Your album is really good btw.

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Really well made VGm.

The epic battle between cerebral and fun.

Decktonic wrote:
breakphase wrote:

I feel ya. I've gone on the same rant. It's sad that the atmosphere is gone from dubstep.

It's not like one style came along and completely erased the other. I don't think anyone in this day and age pretends that brostep is comparable to the stuff you guys are talking about. They are just different styles. Some people like sub bass and some people like high pitched modem squeals. There's still producers out there making the classic stuff. So what?

Well, I don't want to make a thing of it, but sometimes it *seems* like wubstep is all there is. It's just everywhere. Still I've learned to surpress my cynicism and evaluate each wub on it's own merits. I know there's still the other stuff out there.

Downstate wrote:

Where's the space ? The cavernous sub ?

I feel ya. I've gone on the same rant. It's sad that the atmosphere is gone from dubstep.

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goat tracker is written for windows and Mac. It's not a basic program. If Apple allowed c64 emulators, you could run a real c64 tracker, but they don't unfortunately.

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Nah not unless someone ports the whole kitten kaboddle. For now the closest thing is sunvox.

Pretty enjoyable actually -- as far as brostep goes.

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I kind of love this

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Now a days only ACTUAL hip hop lumberjacks wear flannel and backwards hats.

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That's true, it may just be the path of least resistance.

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herr_prof wrote:

I think its more of a parallel development thing.

Yeah it's a general trend that in the past 6-7 years people have started appreciating old school computer sounds, and old video games. I doubt that most of these musicians were influenced by chipmusic per se.

As long as cm.o remains a place to share knowledge and music, I think it's great.