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BR1GHT PR1MATE wrote:other than the faux neologism (<3 u bby, xoxo), i loved what you had to say dan, but do you guys really think that trackers are laborious to program? they were developed as a SHORTHAND for MML right? i mean, clearly times have changed and there are "better" options in certain regards, but I still think that a person with good tracking technique can write and finish a production-quality track way faster than any other electronic audio writing tool.
Yeah I'm like a ninja w trackers. Piano rolls are more laborious i think.
danimal cannon wrote:breakphase wrote:
Hahaha yeah that's really what it's about. It's for hobbyists mostly. And sometimes you can get enough people together to listen to it at the same time.
While to some it's a curious oddity to dip their feet in, I wholeheartedly disagree.
I've found chiptunes to have a surprising amount of depth despite limited capabilites, ESPECIALLY when working in medium (not fakebit).
Why is this?
Essentially the workaround we use to get the most out of our hardware (demoscene mentality) causes us to use extremely unique compostion ideas. The monophonic nature tends to lend to "hypermelodicism" (a word I came up with) which are those breakneck monophonic melodies that you might hear in a Trey Frey song. They're usually a mix of impossible bends, crazy vibratos, extreme panning, multi-octave arps, and peculiar note runs and rhythms all at a breakneck pace. Why? Because those are all things that the Gameboy or NES is GOOD at. On a conventional instrument it would be STUPID to program these sorts of things. Even on a digital synthesizer, it's extremely conventional and laborious for people to program melodies in this fashion.
This is just ONE example of many. Do you think I would program extreme 12 note arpeggios mixing runs and chords, in which each note has millisecond panning switches, millisecond octave cycling within each note, and high frequency vibrato to add timbre on a regular instrument, all while modulating the duty cycle in a counter polyrhythm to the arpeggio rhythm on a tradition instrument or synth?
It's not a sick perversion. It's a mindblowing approach to composition that's truthfully a breath of fresh air in a world increasingly full of presets. BTW apologies if I failed to notice sarcasm.
Well yeah it was kind of sarcastic. I don't think it's technically a "perversion", but maybe just an extreme form of composition? I think it can be very profound and you get out of it what you put into it. But I think it is more for people who want to experiment. It's not like were trying to be superstars or something (or maybe some people are..). I just see it as being more casual than other forms of music.
Anyway I don't mean to denigrate the artform. I agree that the limitations can bring about complex compositions. I just think it's something you should do mostly for personal reasons because you enjoy it. Nothing to break a pool cue over.
campbell wrote:just scanned through all this. glad i decided to take a break from the internet, bake a cake, and watch mad men today.
Ahh I forgot about that!!!
Zan-zan-zawa-butt wrote:i agree it's frustrating to hear song after song where originality ain't a factor
BUT it's sorta like getting mad at ze people playing acoustic guitar around a campfire for not doing the same
chiptune in the end is a dabbler's field; anyone seriously making new music in this form is doing it out of some sick perversion to start with
Hahaha yeah that's really what it's about. It's for hobbyists mostly. And sometimes you can get enough people together to listen to it at the same time.
Yowza!! I'm Glad to see the interest. Makes me feel like I haven't wasted my time. This thing just started as a project for a class I took last semester. After the class was over I kept working on it. I'm just stoked to get it out there.
mysterystain wrote:Psst hey do an Android port
I knew that was coming. I wish that I had an android device, cuz I probably would do that. Maybe there's an Android programmer around these parts?
calmdownkidder wrote: These screeenshots will be the only time my music is relevant
lol I hope that's not the case
datafix wrote:this is awesome. i think i'd use this app more then my actual music on my iphone, ipod, and pandora stations honestly. it's a great way to discover new chip artist you haven't heard as well.
thumbs up to this app!
Yeah I've been using it a lot. There's some good musicians here.
nitro2k01 wrote:See my general opinion on "apps" here: http://chipmusic.org/forums/post/95774/#p95774
What functionality will this provide? Will it actually parse the RSS feed and maybe show a number when there's new music, like Mail and Phone? If this is essentially a bookmark similar to the app in the link above, it might just easier for cm to add a <link rel="apple-touch-icon"...> definition, which gives the same result.
I understand your concern. There are many apps that don't really need to be native apps. But I think this will be more useful as a native app than just visiting a web page, or even a html 5 web app.
Currently the app is mainly useful for very quickly listening to songs, and saving them for later. Then you can use them to make playlists. You can also put it in shuffle mode, put the device to sleep and listen to random songs while you work out or something. You can use the playback controls on the lock screen to skip tracks. When you find one you like you can favorite it so you can come back to it. It would be tricky to get this from the current web site. I already have searching functionality created but will be adding it in a future release to maintain good performance on older devices. I need to optimize some things first. My initial impulse to do this was to make the music more mangeable, searchable, categorized.
I actually hadn't considered Badge notifications (the little numbers for new songs). That's a good idea.
nitro2k01 wrote:In my opinion, the legitimate use of the word is for things that require privileges that a regular web page can't provide. Say, permanent local data storage, ability to be used offline, ability to intercept communications or interact with arbitrary web pages.
I will actually be adding all of these categories. I will be adding the ability to save mp3s on disk for offline use. That was in the plan from since the first day. I will also be adding commenting. So you can log in and leave comments for tracks you like. Another feature will be retrieving a song list for a specific artist. These features aren't too far off. They will start being pushed out pretty soon after it gets released. But I think it's useful in it's current form. Here are some screenshots.
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Hey I have finished an app that Id like to upload to the apple app store. It uses the music section of this website. I'm calling it 'CM Feed'. Anyway I have an issue I'd like to resolve. For the icon I've been using the pink and white chip logo that I've seen on this site and I'd like to know if I could get permission to use it. I've tried emailing trash80 but nothing yet. It's a free app and I think it's pretty handy. Here's what the icon looks like.
Let me explain also what it is. It's just a convenient way of listening to the music that get uploaded here. You can make playlists and favorite songs. It's kind of nifty. I don't know how much interest there will be in using it even but I'd like to put it out there anyway. Thanks.
akira^8GB wrote:Lazerbeat wrote:I wonder if Bandcamp and Soundcloud not existing or not really being that well known during 8bc's heyday 2007 - 2009 helped contribute to the number of tunes uploaded there?
I don't think so. It's all about the circle jerk.
Yeah that's part of it. People want to know that other people give a shit about their music. It's the same thing with albums too though.
Jellica wrote:i dont find Bandcamp and Soundcloud very good for stumbling across new music, someone has to put a link in front of you.
maybe i just dont know how to use it.
Yeah I agree it's not as focused.
I see ur point.. I listen every day. I just don't sign in so ... I'm part of the problem basically is what I'm saying. S:
Actually I've noticed since 8bc went down the uploads and views have been way up.
Jellica wrote:8bc always had better music uploaded, inspite of the high levels of shit. come on guys upload some good music here.
little-scale wrote:spacetownsavior wrote:I changed the age brackets so that there's a little more resolution between 22-40 years old
Cool. I am older than 25, but I have done much development on hardware that is older than I am.
Yeah true that. The more interesting hardware is stuff that was before my time like the c64 or atari. And Im 26, so 25 is maybe a bit low.
This is a cool app man. You should think of merging it with a web version. Like the one 2xAA was trying to do.
celsius wrote:Well, how about this one. My main criteria in a value assessment of a musical composition is the emotive response it evokes in me. Which is 100% subjective. Surely this is one of the main, if not the main purpose, of music.
It's easy if we're talking about a can opener because it has a primary intended primary function. To open cans. You could have the most gorgeously designed can opener by aesthetic standards. It could be light weight, low cost, recyclable and shoot fucking lazers but if it fails to open a can with ease then it can be judged as a low quality can opener.
What then do people think is the primary function of music?
Just to weigh in, I think music is art. As such it's function in society is hard to define. Sometimes it social(dance music). Sometimes it's nationalistic or patriotic. Rock music is more participatory and Democratic. It can free us from normal thinking and suggest a higher purpose. It can be religious. It can be a way to identify yourself in society, especially in a period where normal class distinctions can't be relied upon to answer the question, "Who am I?" All music is expressive or emotive, but can be used in many different ways.
I think that technical proficiency in music is as important as it is in painting. The rules that ground musical theory are based on demonstrable, objective facts about sound. Just like geometry and color study, and lighting are based on real principals. It's important, but not the only criteria to judge.
tl;dr I think that "quality" art can be judged semi-objectively, by how technically good it is. But "good" art is judged by it's effect, subjectively and in the culture which it occurs.
meh i dunno
Decktonic wrote:Bit Shifter wrote:I don't really understand what laws / interests govern logo use on television. You have cases like this, and then you have cases where record labels are obligated to blur out logos that might appear in their music videos and things like that. I guess a music video is considered a "product" in a sense, and a logo's appearance there could arguably suggest endorsement. Although I guess a TV show can be considered a "product" as well, and yet in those cases you have companies aggressively seeking to insinuate themselves there, via product or logo placement. Don't really get it.
Fucking logos. How do they work.
I thought they blurred out the logos *because* they charge a lot of money for endorsements and they don't want to give them away for free. Not a copyright issue, but a "why give this away for free" issue.
Yeah that's what I've heard. It would be free advertising, so they don't like that.
cak wrote:Whoa whoa, don't get me wrong here guys...I'm not some suehappy dork. I just think it's at least worth a bit of research, if nothing else. Intellectual property theft is a real thing...I give my chiptunes away for free just like the rest of you, but if one of them was used without permission on a tv show where cast members are being paid yearly salaries per episode, you bet I would be talking to a lawyer in about 5 seconds.
That would really only make sense if they were profiting from the use of the logo. What damages could be claimed from this? Even if they used a song I'd be damn happy about it.
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