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minusbaby wrote:

I feel like this "OMG! THEY'RE COMING TO GET US" hyperbole is largely borne from green artists looking for solidarity in paranoia.

Agreed. By new, do you mean chip artists that started in the 21st century? Because that seems to be the case in almost every thread this discussion has come up in. Most of the responses from people in that group are just fear-mongering and paranoia. Also just blatant denial.

Take for instance the "we'll have to sift through a lot of terrible shit to find the good stuff" argument. I'm sorry, have you looked outside of the chiptune scene (which also suffers from the following) lately? The amount of garbage music you have to sift through to find the absolutely immense amount of good music out there is unreal. Every tween with a DAW is throwing up shitty tracks soundcloud and bandcamp (e.g. bronies). There's nothing wrong with that, because they're learning (or maybe they're just subjectively and/or objectively terrible). My point is that this scene is already like that. There are a lot of chip artists out there who I find terrible. Maybe they're learning, maybe they just don't have talent, I don't know. The point still stands: You already have to wade through a lot of shit to find things that suit your taste. How would more—potentially better—artists joining the scene harm it? You'd have to sort through a proportionally equal amount of artists that don't suit your tastes to find ones that do.

And, note, that I'm emphasizing "your" and "my tastes" for a reason: a lot of this paranoia stems from the fact that pop music, dubstep, shitty electro, etc., etc. aren't what you're looking for in music. Great, don't shit on other people's parade just because you think you're all high and mighty and that pop is below you just because you're making some niche music with kitsch appeal. As minusbaby put it:

minusbaby wrote:

Truly you don't think that chip music versions of pop music end up any less pop, do you? Have covers of pop tunes by chip musicians become a version of Stockholm syndrome [no pun intended <):'p]?

I dont' see a reason to think that the music you're making is any better than the music that makes thousands (maybe millions) more than you're making. Clearly they're doing something right, regardless of how artistically lazy they are. Why do you think you crack the cheesiest fucking smile when James plays "Sexy and I Know It" or when someone throws "I Just Had Sex" on the party playlist? Because it's fucking catchy and you know you like it you sneaky motherfuckers, you. You're allowed to dislike things. You're allowed to present your distaste in a logical fashion. What I don't think you should be doing is becoming a jaded cynical asshat who like to piss all over whatever you even mildly dilslike, because that's a lot of what's going on in here. As the [insert dicksucking here] minusbaby [cock-in-mouth] stated:

minusbaby wrote:

The whole thing is really bugged out and full of holes. I just want to hear cool shit from cool people.

come on now