1,761 Reply by SketchMan3

(60 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Victory Road wrote:

listen to/study kwwrr, especially the album "Big Times" (although it's all consistently dissonant & yet really thoughtfully written and sensible)

Just checked this out. Yeah, you're right. It has an underlying feeling of coherency that permeates throughout, and it has moments of a clear understanding of the basic "conventional" rules, and the dissonance is meaningful. And it still has an element of "melody" to it, however disjointed.

I feel all hoity toity, but I can't describe it any other way =q

Thanks for posting that, btw.

There are no "rules" to tonality... unless you were aiming to compose counterpoint in the style of Bach (and even he breaks the rules)

Yeah, you're right. I should have said "Getting away from conventional western tonality" instead.

And Bach is awesome. He made a composition based on the letters of his name, (H is A, if I'm not mistaken) Edit: It's actually B. That's awesome.

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1,762 Reply by SketchMan3

(3 replies, posted in Releases)

This was my lullaby last night. This morning it was my cup-o'-joe.

This is so great.

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1,763 Reply by SketchMan3

(60 replies, posted in General Discussion)

SadPanda wrote:

My 2 rules are:

1. If it sounds right, it is.
2. If it sounds a little off, close enough.

Edit: Bonus Rule: If it sounds good, better add some glitches.

Rule 1 is what I live by. I only use theory to explain stuff after the fact.

Another thing to try: hold one note and see how many chords you can spell around it whether you seem to change the key or not.

I love doing that.

ant1 wrote:

are you asking for rules about breaking the rules?

No. I was just wanted to know what everyone's thoughts and ideas were on the subject. Just looking for a general discussion on it. Not really looking for a tutorial specifically for me, just insights and musings.

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1,764 Reply by SketchMan3

(60 replies, posted in General Discussion)

I just realized, "breaking" is kind of any inappropriate word to use, because really, all of this stuff is covered under modes and the various scales. I guess it just sounds odd to my ear. The more I read you guys' posts, the more I realize I don't know, haha.

I'd say Nuclace's "Gooney Tunes" is a light example of what I'm talking about. One that persists throughout.

Edith: And, yeah, Stravinsky. The Stravinsky examples seems like it's leaning more towards real atonality, but my ear is not at the level where I can analyze this.

Edit edit: since you were so kind as to volunteer: http://chipmusic.org/zan-zan-zawa-butt/ … ping-hippy

I think an analysis of this would be very educatiional

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1,765 Reply by SketchMan3

(60 replies, posted in General Discussion)

ChipsChallengeBand wrote:

dat truck driver key change... ew

What you're talking about, OP, is actually a pretty common way to make a song more memorable without having the listener consciously understand why (if they don't hear the dissonance).  It's a pretty baller musical technique, one that we can't use correctly yet lol

Yeah. It is very common, but generally not too common for it to be taken to the extremes, well, depending on who you ask, I guess.

I didn't realize it was such a covert thing, though.

I think there's a certain level of honesty and the ability to communicate a feeling effectively involved, too.

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1,766 Reply by SketchMan3

(15 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

m00dawg wrote:
SketchMan3 wrote:

It's probably going into your spam folder. Check there for the emails, and be sure to choose "Not Spam" if you find them. And, good for you! big_smile


If it is, it's inconsistent which is why I have had trouble catching it. If it's getting filtered, it's by the mail server, not my client, since it doesn't even hit my SPAM folder. Just in case, I have tweaked my whitelist. Hopefully that does the trick.

For me, sometimes they get spammed, sometimes they don't. =\

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1,767 Reply by SketchMan3

(3 replies, posted in Bugs and Requests)

Lazerbeat wrote:

Like this one?

http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/3988/ … read-this/

Title-edited for tl;dr OP.

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1,768 Topic by SketchMan3

(60 replies, posted in General Discussion)

*I hope that title makes sense.

So, often I hear songs in the chiptune world in which the melodies stick to the proper scale, mode, tonic, all the way through. People seem to like it, with exceptions that are considered "boring".

Then I hear music that seems to have notes going all over the place, disregarding scale or tonal center, seeming to randomly switch modes and tonalities with no warning. People also like THIS, also with exceptions. I'm not talking about purely atonal music, but music that is very loose in the path it takes in returning to the tonic, and not in a "jazzy" way, either.

So... how do you "break the tonal center" and get away with it? And what do you call it? Eh... I'll just say "atonal" anyway.

One thing I've noticed about the songs that I like that incorporate this device is that the atonality is almost a parody in nature. It's like the composer knew where the note was "supposed" to go, but threw it off somewhere else just because. It almost follows that Avril Lavigne chord progression, and the artist, who is aware of that fact and deliberately wrote it that way, is laughing his head off at your confusion.

And with other songs, it will go off just for a note or two, then come right back to the center and pretend nothing ever happened, very much aware that something did indeed happen..

What are your thoughts?

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1,769 Topic by SketchMan3

(3 replies, posted in Bugs and Requests)

Have you guys considered creating a closed "FAQ" sub-forum. It could be a place for the helpful-yet-redundant threads that are closed could go to zombify. It'd essentially be a "helpful closed threads only" section, to which all of the newbies could conveniently go and search for the answers to their questions before having to search the rest of the board, which can be cumbersome and inconvenient and discouraging.

Of course, this would require the members to report such redundant threads for it to work, because the mods can't be expected to wade through all that to find them.

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1,770 Reply by SketchMan3

(15 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

m00dawg wrote:

That is amazing! Thanks everyone for the help! Sorry for the late response. For some reason I usually don't get e-mailed when there is a post update (even though I have it set to do that). So sorry if my lack of response seemed disrespectful!

Quite the contrary. This basically solves my exact problem! Thanks all!

It's probably going into your spam folder. Check there for the emails, and be sure to choose "Not Spam" if you find them. And, good for you! big_smile

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1,771 Reply by SketchMan3

(5 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

Ah, see, VBA-M doesn't even have that option, so I never would have known it was there in VBA. While this may solve the problem, If anyone else has any ideas, let me know. I need as much as I can take.

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1,772 Topic by SketchMan3

(5 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

Okay, so... I use BGB through Wine on a Linux machine. A friend of mine uses KiGB and VBA on a Mac.

I'm trying to send him a custom-named lsdj.sav I created in bgb for him to look at in KiGB or VBA. Now, I know that the proper way to do this is to put the sav file in whatever the programs "battery save" directory is. For KiGB it's kigb/save" and for VBA... I'm not really sure. I use GVBAM, which just saves them in the "/username/.config/gvbam" directory.

So, my friend located where his .savs go for both programs, we renamed "lsdj.gb" to "lsdj_customname.gb" to coincide with the "lsdj_customname.sav" file I had sent him, he loaded the rom, but it just didn't load anything. I even loaded it up in VBA and created a ".sgm" save state for him to load into VBA, and it still didn't work.

What are we doing wrong?

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1,773 Reply by SketchMan3

(7 replies, posted in Past Events)

Solarbear wrote:

He did perform!!! He was 'I Like You'!!! The one man band!!

Aw.... That's what I get for not paying attention and closing the window. Oh well. There's always next time. Can't wait until next time.

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1,774 Reply by SketchMan3

(7 replies, posted in Past Events)

ya, Solarbear was the best of what I saw. Awesome show. And what I thought was just a "filler tune" turned out to be an awesome finale. Good stuff. Looking forward to the next one.

When you said "and then the sound guy from BRKfest", I thought you meant he was performing =S

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1,775 Reply by SketchMan3

(181 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Downstate wrote:

"the true goal of chip musicians should be fun, music or community!"

but what about people like me making pretentious serious chin stroking music...?   ....its not much fun......its kind of awkward to get into and weird for a dancefloor, thats why i like playing this sort of stuff  : P.........and community ! pffft. i dont want to meet any of you retards in the flesh muhahahaha

You mist the moosic peart.

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1,776 Reply by SketchMan3

(7 replies, posted in Past Events)

Well. That was good. VERY good. I might be staying for the rest of the acts, too.

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