wow, seems I started more of a shitstorm than I thought I would. Might as well dig myself deeper eh?
defiantsystems wrote:Alpine wrote:would you rather we call it under produced techno then?
I kinda thought the point of chip was that it was to do with using games consoles/ personal computer's abilities and weaknesses to make songs, not imitating a console. where do we draw the line between chip and techno? currently at fakebit, however, if you have a better name for it, please do say so
Updated chip synthesis. Efficient chip. I feel pretty good about what I do.
ok, that does work, chip synthesis has a ring to it
boomlinde wrote:Alpine wrote:would you rather we call it under produced techno then?
If by techno you mean something that doesn't have anything to do with techno, then yes, that might be an appropriate name
bleepy bloopy electronic music might as well be techno imo.
boomlinde wrote:Alpine wrote:I kinda thought the point of chip was that it was to do with using games consoles/ personal computer's abilities and weaknesses to make songs, not imitating a console. where do we draw the line between chip and techno? currently at fakebit, however, if you have a better name for it, please do say so
I'd say you missed the point if that's what you think it is, but hey, everyone has different reasons for doing things.
Then could you please explain the point of chipmusic then? If it isn't, in a nutshell, to try and make cool shit with outdated devices, then what is it? Is it just a gimmick? A nostalgia trip?
As I said, I thought the point was to use consoles or personal computers, not for their primary purpose, to keep within their limitations, and stretch them to the max, e.g. chibi-tech's stuff. Pushing the NES/Famicom to the limit to try and get cool sounds out of it. If people are just going to make music that sounds like an NES, or sounds like a C64, then you might as well call it fake tbh. Plus you guys are always hella quick to go "is not vidya game music, just made on vidya game console" and with chip, you can go "yeah, it just plays on the console, but it's music I made myself, it's not like I sample shit, p cool right?" but with fakebit, what do you say? Do you go "yeah, this sounds like an old video game, but isn't, I made it using samples in FL Studio, pretty rad right?" which imo, doesn't have the same kinda reasoning behind it.
Also, I'm not calling module stuff like .xm/.it/.mod/.w/e fake, it runs on limitations, especially if you're keeping to like 16k or something.
All I'm trying to say is I can't even tell what the point of chiptune is, if it isn't that, if you can give a decent reason as to why it isn't just a gimmick , or a nostalgia trip, I will be glad to hear it.
PolarBirds wrote:I must agree with boomlinde regarding Alpine's comment! Fakebit feels very negative as a description indeed but as mentioned above, you missed the point. This a discussion that could go on endlessly and be argued from both sides. I guess that is supposed to be handled in it's own thread.
Sorry for shitting up the thread, if anyone wants to argue with me, pm me, we can have a discussion about it over pm's rather than changing the point of the thread.