ant1 wrote:
i wonder what it would be like to apply it to its own output iteratively many times
My First Gameboy DMG-01 Chiptuning
290 Nov 19, 2012 3:07 pm
Re: Is chipmusic a genre or a medium? (55 replies, posted in General Discussion)
Is chipmusic a medium or a rare?
291 Nov 17, 2012 8:15 am
Re: Is chipmusic a genre or a medium? (55 replies, posted in General Discussion)
Quoting my post in that other thread where people disagree with each other
I'm not sure why you think that chipmusic isn't a genre, especially since you use rock and jazz -- two really broad and vaguely defined genres -- as examples. A genre in this case is a name for a set of identifying properties that can be used to distinguish a work from another. I can't see what makes you think it needs to be more specific than that when people have been defining genres using properties like time era, instrumentation, geographical origins, cultural and social background and political tone to define them for ages. Style and form or whatever you think is the ultimate defining point of a musical genre is really just one of many possible aspects of it, as far as I see it.
Calling chipmusic "rock" (or whatever) while avoiding the fact that it's also chipmusic is just being intentionally vague, for better or for worse. It's simply not very helpful to anyone looking to hear either chipmusic or rock music.
292 Nov 16, 2012 5:38 pm
Re: A big fat super duper 18gb Torrent of loads of 8bitcollective stuff (28 replies, posted in General Discussion)
They should make a torrent of the songs that scored 1 star back when they had that rating system.
293 Nov 16, 2012 4:19 am
Topic: PPL IN MALAYSIA (0 replies, posted in General Discussion)
Hey, I'm in KL until next friday (free during the weekend) so I wonder if there are any people here who would like to meet up. I remember hearing about an indonesian chip scene, I think, but I'm not sure about MY.
294 Nov 16, 2012 4:13 am
Re: Should chipmusic stay underground? (76 replies, posted in General Discussion)
lastfuture wrote:
I think everyone calling "chip music" a genre should stop it... it's like saying "guitar music" or "drum music" is a proper genre. It's really not. It's a good way to find together as a group who like to play the same kinds of instruments and talk about how to improve and tweak them, how to play or how to record them etc. In that respect we're no different than any other group of instrument players.
calling it "chip music" to the public audience is in my eyes trying to profile ourselves by highlighting the kind of instrument we are using instead of emphasizing WHAT we do with it. If I'm going to a "guitar music" concert, I better like rock, or metal, or acoustic guitar quartets, or nickelback, or flamenco ... I don't think I have to continue.
Just because so many chip artists seem to gravitate towards a certain genre, it's possible to understand "chip music" as a genre. Nothing prevents anybody from writing jazz, flamenco, ballads or polka on a NES, in fact I suspect it's all been done already (and I know for a fact some of these have been done). And when we call THAT chip music it becomes deceiving, because people don't get what they expect.
I'm not sure why you think that chipmusic isn't a genre, especially since you use rock and jazz -- two really broad and vaguely defined genres -- as examples. A genre in this case is a name for a set of identifying properties that can be used to distinguish a work from another. I can't see what makes you think it needs to be more specific than that when people have been defining genres using properties like time era, instrumentation, geographical origins, cultural and social background and political tone to define them for ages. Style and form or whatever you think is the ultimate defining point of a musical genre is really just one of many possible aspects of it, as far as I see it.
Calling chipmusic "rock" (or whatever) while avoiding the fact that it's also chipmusic is just being intentionally vague, for better or for worse. It's simply not very helpful to anyone looking to hear either chipmusic or rock music.
295 Nov 15, 2012 5:10 pm
Re: Should chipmusic stay underground? (76 replies, posted in General Discussion)
I'd be happy if people stopped referring to this thing as "music" and call it whatever physical phenomenon it really is, like "sound" or "audible vibrations"
296 Nov 15, 2012 4:58 pm
Re: Should chipmusic stay underground? (76 replies, posted in General Discussion)
BR1GHT PR1MATE wrote:
listen: almost all of chip music is gimmicky. we are using videogame systems to write music with. its a gimmick.
How's this in itself a gimmick?
even calling it "chip music" rather than "lo fi house" or "electro rock" or whatever the actual genre of the music might be is gimmicky.
How will calling chip music "lo fi house" or "electro rock" (totally not gimmicky btw) instead of chip music improve the situation? What makes "lo fi house" or "electro rock" more "actual genres" than "chip music"? That sort of vain wordplay won't magically give chip music more credence. u all know why u here
all our shirts emblazoned with gameboys and Ataris? gimmicky.
As opposed to what printed t-shirt?
297 Nov 3, 2012 5:02 pm
Re: Random musings on a train: Europe, Blip, community, the future (148 replies, posted in General Discussion)
boaconstructor wrote:
Whether or not you want to be in the limelight is up to you, but its really sad in my eyes when I see established artists trying to put down younger, wide-eyed chip artists who are hungry for more than what chip has to offer right now.
Do you have any hard examples of this? I.e. any artist that is obviously put down not because of a personal preference of the critic, but because the artist is upsetting some sort of conservative elite by being truly innovative and creative.
I really don't see the problem with some people being conservative about the scene (and doubt your assessments of these people are based on any kind of real experience. "Quality of fans" -- seriously heard anyone reason like that?), and I don't see the problem with some people catering to a greater audience either. After all, any loosely knit scene consists of a bunch of individuals with different tastes and preferences, not a governing authority that you really have to care about. If you don't get a gig it's because you don't fit the bill or missed an opportunity, not because some sort of jealous elite of conservative old farts is holding you back.
298 Nov 2, 2012 1:53 pm
Re: Is there a WAV file converter for Game Boy that works? (17 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)
I think that if you can't convert the audio and make a playback routine yourself, whatever project you have in mind will be a tough one.
299 Oct 24, 2012 8:24 am
Re: How to make music with a SNES console? Software in cartridge? I'm miss (22 replies, posted in Nintendo Consoles)
Timbob wrote:
http://blog.scoutshonour.com/post/23504 … troduction
here's the first blog in the series. It's quite an interesting read.Also, she mentions on there that there was a space invaders game that basically had a snes rom build in, which got loaded by the snes using the super gameboy. Since most gb flashcarts are now about 64M, space isn't really much of an issue anymore. Would it be possible to turn a super gameboy with a gb flashcart into some sort of cheap Snes flashcart?
like...
1. take a snes rom
2. Compile a .gb file which takes the snes rom, and loads it into the snes using the super gameboy.
3. ???
4. Profit!
AFAIK it loads the game data into RAM, then that's that. There's not a lot of RAM!
300 Oct 18, 2012 3:58 pm
Re: What are the advantages of 1/4 & 1/8 Jacks? (30 replies, posted in General Discussion)
1/8:
Pros:
* Small
* Not big
Cons:
* Small
* Not big
1/4:
Pros:
* Big
* Not small
Cons:
* Big
* Not small
301 Oct 15, 2012 9:09 pm
Re: music you make vs music you want to make (72 replies, posted in General Discussion)
sugar sk*-*lls wrote:
jah of course, though the reasons change-the problem these days is limited resources for gear and time to compose.
I don't agree that limited resources for gear is a problem. For a computer owner, the amount of tools available to composers, producers and musicians *for free* is closer to being overwhelming than a limiting scarcity.
The limitation in this case is probably the attitude of the producer. If you get stuck not being able to produce the music you want to produce, getting new expensive gear can seem like an easy way out, I guess. I don't mean to say that there aren't a lot of useful and innovative products that would surely ease your workflow, could you afford them, but don't be fooled by the illusion that you _need_ them to be productive, especially if you already own a computer.
As for limited time, if you have four hours of leisure time a day for a 70 year life (probably an underestimate if you don't end up having a baby every few years) you have more than a hundred thousand hours to spend on whatever you like. What you do in your free time is of course entirely up to you, but I can't really see how lack of it itself could be a problem for most people here. Agree with how you spend it or re-prioritize, because even a tenth of your total free time is more than enough to master a lot of things. The problem might simply be that you enjoy some other things a lot more than making music, and your dedication to music won't catch up with your aspirations. This is normal, and creating good music and developing musically is a frustrating experience for most people in many ways, even if it is ultimately rewarding.
302 Sep 28, 2012 5:01 pm
Re: Milkytracker on Raspberry Pi (12 replies, posted in Software & Plug-ins)
Nice! A sort of unrelated question, but have you got Jack to run reasonably on one of these? I have an old headless ARM box (it's a NAS-thingie that I wiped and installed arch on) but Jack just won't work on it.
303 Sep 28, 2012 3:48 pm
Re: Need a "chip step" tut, can some one redirect me? (40 replies, posted in Tutorials, Mods & How-To's)
haha
304 Sep 28, 2012 3:42 pm
Re: Does any one know of any famous artist who use LSDj? (102 replies, posted in General Discussion)
I think I remember hearing an LSDJ example song by Ed DMX.