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(95 replies, posted in General Discussion)

akira^8GB wrote:

What about FISH AND CHIPS? That old timey classic.

This and only this!

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(163 replies, posted in General Discussion)

little-scale wrote:

Let's all write better music.

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(163 replies, posted in General Discussion)

For the record, I'm not saying any artist or genre is bad, although I can see how that came across as such. I just wish more artists would take things in a different direction. As Kevin said, "i think is an attempt to encourage more artists to go beyond emulating their favorite artists, games & covering non-chip stuff and really explore the full depth of the software and/or hardware." The point of this wasn't to attack any artist, or genre.

I think with the advent of Nanoloop 1.6, we could get a song/file swap started that is similar to lsdsng swap and get some real collaboration and exploration going. I know it'd be difficult to do in person, due to distance and availability and schedules, but I'd like to see more of that happening too.

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(163 replies, posted in General Discussion)

A Versus B wrote:
Kremland wrote:

And the fact that new comers jump straight to lsdj without even knowing what a tracker is or how chiptune is composed, LEARN YOUR SHIT AND FOCUS ON THE MUSIC INSTEAD OF JUMPING STRAIGHT TO A GAMEBOY BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU LOOK COOL!

I've had friends come to me and ask me where they can get gameboy modz so they can make CHIPCHOONES, without even having any experience with music composition whatsoever.

This is exactly what I did... I think I turned out pretty good...

More power to ya dude! I didn't start this thread to attack or discourage newcomers.

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(163 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Saskrotch wrote:

"Don't just tweak some knobs or use a generic waveform or patch"

This part kind of bugged me. Seems like one of the main points of chip music is that you're limited to certain wave forms, which means you have to be original through composition, not sound design.

I dunno whatever. I'm gonna kill myself eventually anyways. who cares.

I think sound design is what can make compositions unique though. There's so much you can do with the wav channel in LSDJ and Nanoloop, and I feel like most people aren't pushing them enough. Also, TABLES! Tables are key.

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(163 replies, posted in General Discussion)

George wrote:

My main beef is with chipmusicians covering other chipmusician's tracks.
It seems to be a trend. A very sterile one.
I guess people ran out of mainstream tracks to cover and have to move on to incestuous cocksucking.
The next logical step is to cover each other's covers.
Can't wait.

I seriously LOL'd. I have no problem with covering covers though. I think that makes things a bit more interesting. It's kind of what I'd like to see more of (granted remixers are putting some effort into in and bringing something unique to the table). I covered Adamgetsawesome's Sweet Action and had a lot of fun with it.

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defiantsystems wrote:

I think an easy solution to this problem could be said in two words: community involvement.

The chiptune community is kind of a bizarre entity because we constantly see people come and go. The reason being is most people will upload something similar to what is already being done and then no one says anything and they leave. What in fact we are doing to weeding out any kind of potential innovation. It takes awhile for people to come into their own for any type of genre or style of music. Look at anyone's first album then compare it to what they write now, it's almost always different or better (this isn't always the case, I listen to plenty of bands who have transitioned into a sound I don't care for.) If we had more people coming into the scene and sticking around we have a lot more input rather than having the same discussions with the same 15 people who are active here.

To get over this hump more discussion with new artists and even older artists needs to happen for innovation to take place. chipmusic.org is a great avenue for all of us to feed off of each other but it seems as though if you're not an already accomplished chip musician within the scene most people don't care. Take me for example. For a long time I was discouraged with writing chipmusic entirely because I would upload tracks and BEG for constructive criticism only to receive maybe a total of 5 comments (spanning 5-6 songs) for the past 2 years like "sounds good" or "a little repetitive, but not bad." Argh! Where is it repetitive?, What did you like particularly?, What can I do to make it better? I'm a perfectionist and I thrive on criticism, compliments are also a big boost to motivation, I prefer the harshest of criticism because that just gives me the drive to make it even better. Don't be afraid to criticize even the most accomplished among us. No one is above being criticized, people will always critique everything to themselves why not make it known? Voice an opinion and make it better. Bouncing ideas off of each other is crucial to innovation. Very few people ever innovate alone.

Take it a step further. If you listen to someone and think "this person has something going here" do a split album or write a song with them and feature them in it. This is not only great exposure for new artists but collaboration is a great way to write a track (probably easier as well, since there's two or more people working on it) and expand on an existing idea. Other artists are constantly featuring new people in their tracks, hip hop especially. Shit, Korn did a bunch of songs with Skrillex and in turn it expanded what they were already doing. Punk and hardcore bands have been doing splits with bands for decades, so why not us?

I'm aware that music or any art form is very egocentric. Almost all of us are much to wrapped up in what we have going on to do these things but if you have enough energy to complain, you have enough energy to fix it. You don't have to hold people's hands and constructively criticize every track you listen to but doing a little bit more than coming on here and circle jerking with the same people day in and day out is a start.

/mytwocents

You also get exactly what I'm trying to say. I'd love to see more collaboration and community involvement and a hands on approach.

There's nothing I love more than going to 8static or Pulsewave and helping a newcomer finish a track because I helped them sketch out a simple bass instrument or showed them a new way to make kick drums or snares, etc. I like giving that kind of help and feedback to people and I think we'd see more artists coming into their own a lot sooner.

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e.s.c. wrote:

i get what he's saying and can commend will for what i think is an attempt to encourage more artists to go beyond emulating their favorite artists, games & covering non-chip stuff and really explore the full depth of the software and/or hardware...i've had similar conversations a lot over the past year or so with some of the other people whove been doing this for years (like disassembler has been), i guess a lot people hoped that when the scene started expanding more in 2008-2009, the influx of new people would eventually lead to a much greater diversity in the types of music being made with chip, though it almost seems like there is actually LESS now (at least if you go based on a percentage of the whole scene), partially as earlier artists who pushed the boundaries move on to other things... feel like the increased ability to see other artists' live gigs (either in person or in video form) has also led to a greater percentage of new artists coming in with a MUCH more defined idea of what chip music is than was the case in those pre-8bc/O.G. ugly as hell nanoloop forum days, and i'm sure this factors in as well.. i remember hunting long and hard to find stuff to listen to when i started using nanoloop in 2003 and only having maybe 4-5 albums worth for years, and didn't see anyone else playing a live chip set until i was maybe 3 years in and had done a few gigs myself

You get exactly what I'm saying, and a few others have made some great points as well. I would have hoped that site like lsdsng swap would do for others what it has done for me. Also, the lsdj patch book was a brilliant site. it was a shame to see it go. But I guess lsdsng swap could essentially serve the same purpose.

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half of the artists today are regurgitating the same shit (the same goes for Dubstep or Electro or whateverthefuck)! You have the technology...use it!! Don't just tweak some knobs or use a generic waveform or patch, etc , strive to get the most out of what you're working with! Step your game up! I respect a handful of artists, not because they're innovators or they've got an extensive catalog, it's because they're doing something different! I feel as though I'm not one of these people, and I have much to learn, but it's how I feel. Deal with it!

P.S. This rant stems from the fact that I love Chipmusic and electronic music because you don,'t need the latest and greatest equipment to produce something amazing, you need drive and effort, and I'm not seeing that nowadays. You have the means to do something amazing, so do it!

Agree or disagree...I fee as though this needed to be said by someone. I know I'm not the only one who thinks this.

P.P.S. If you're gonna reply, please try to be civil. I don't want this thread getting closed because you wanna act like you're on 8bc!

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I'd say this is pretty well-rounded.

Antipop Consortium
Autechre
Bauhaus
Black Star
Boards of Canada
Capsule
Christoph De Babalon
Coaltar of the Deepers
Cocteau Twins
Company Flow
Dälek
Ellen Allien
Funkstörung
Joy Division
LFO
Madlib
Madvillain
Melt-Banana
Merzbow
MF Doom
Modeselektor
Mogwai
Mr. Oizo
My Bloody Valentine
Nas
Public Enemy
Ryoji Ikeda
Siriusmo
Two Lone Swordsmen
Vector Lovers
Wu-Tang Clan

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Oh, shit! I gotta bring heat! It's been years since I submitted a track to a compilation! This needs to be....FRESH!

Rainbowdragoneyes/Roniit/NoN-SToP!/RayStrife/TriggeredImpulse/BubblegumOctopus

The Backstage at Championship Bar
931 Chambers Street
Trenton, New Jersey

2/16/2012
Doors at 7:00 PM
All ages
$10

Rainbowdragoneyes
http://www.facebook.com/Rainbowdragoneyes


Roniit
http://www.facebook.com/Ronitmusic


NoN-SToP!
http://www.facebook.com/nonstop68


Ray Strife
https://www.facebook.com/pages/To-Live- … 5904671067


Triggered Impulse
http://www.facebook.com/triggeredimpulse


Bubblegum Octopus
http://www.facebook.com/BubblegumOctopusOfficial

I'm really hoping the promoter will consider booking more chip acts in Trenton after this show.

Karl (Esopus/Dragon Chiptune/Fumubattleship/ Originoo Draggon Esopus) played sets there for an "Industrial" show back in summer of 2010, and attendance was extremely low. After that the promoter was pretty hesistant about booking acts which weren't the ususal metal bands who brought a decent crowd to their shows.

Hopefully things will be different this time.

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http://sect7.net - personal site and net label that I've done nothing with.
http://www.facebook.com/dataspill - failbook. I rarely post here, it's pretty much my Twitter feed.
http://www.last.fm/user/auroranoise - personal last.fm with a link to my artist page in the description
http://twitter.com/syncswim - I use this the most out of all my social networks
https://plus.google.com/114220085608146531619/about - google+, complete with ugly url
http://vimeo.com/disassembler - vimeo which I haven't updated in years and will probably never need to thanks to Emily F!

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(9 replies, posted in Releases)

This is amazing! How did I miss this?

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(21 replies, posted in Releases)

I love this to death! Both GOTO80 and Raquel Meyers are constantly pushing the envelope and have provided an infinite amount of inspiration.

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(129 replies, posted in General Discussion)

This shit's pretty badass! Good find!